Savannah Monitor shedding question - Page 2

murrindindi · 03-21-13, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebody

best to take out the mice from his diet, a treat rarely at best, but I cant see this causing what your describing, switch out the mice and add crustaceans ie shrimps and whatnot.

Hi, why is it best to take out the mice in your experience?

murrindindi · 03-21-13, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Toothless

I figured I needed to re-visit his diet. I did a bunch of research, and came to the conclusion that poor husbandry, rather than a specific diet (i.e. vert vs. inverts) causes most of the problems we see with savs.

Hi, you`ve got it in one, well done!!

murrindindi · 03-21-13, 06:05 PM

Can you tell me the SV length of the monitor, and take a few tailbase shots (from the side without the tail resting on anything)?
He/she is probably interested in the glass doors because it`s a way "out", so reaching up and "pushing" would be the natural thing to try and do, and maybe the reflection in the glass is catching the monitor`s attention, too?
Looks in nice condition, well done!

jarich · 03-21-13, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebody

maybe, but rodents are no good for savs anyways, so I don't think its going to be much better :P I would feed it rats as its the best meat to bone ratio. just my 2 cents.

Sounds like you have some more research to do on both those assumptions Freebody.

To the OP, this looks like you are seeing the results of something more behavioral. Im just guessing, but do you only open the door when you have some food for it? It seems like when you come in the room your monitor is expecting food, and when you dont provide it, he is coming to get it on his own. Im also guessing, but it looks like you have touched some type of food (mouse, etc) to the outside of your cage door at some point. Your monitor in that second video is smelling something food related on the outside of your door. Might be that same thing that is making it want to get through the door in the first video.

Freebody · 03-21-13, 07:21 PM

well im not professional, and I have really only kept a sav monitor for 3 years, but it seems like everyone who feeds rodents as a staple have 5 year old dead savs, and or grossly obese savs, their staple in the wind is insects and crustaceans with the odd rodents ever found my field examinations so this is why I say feed rodents as a rare treat but not a staple. and as far as me saying feed rats vrs feeding mice if you do choose to feed rodents as a staple, Nutrition Feeder Mice | Nutrient Composition of Feeder Animals

jarich · 03-21-13, 07:48 PM

I called you on saying that mice are no good. Which is false. I then called you on saying rats are better than mice, which that same website you just quoted above will show you is also false.

I actually agree that mice arent a great staple, but that is neither here nor there in regards to this thread.

Freebody · 03-21-13, 08:53 PM

well i should have said unless you mouse is 3g or less, ie the neonatal mouse about a day two old, feed it rats they are better. problem solved :P

Toothless · 03-21-13, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jarich

Sounds like you have some more research to do on both those assumptions Freebody.

To the OP, this looks like you are seeing the results of something more behavioral. Im just guessing, but do you only open the door when you have some food for it? It seems like when you come in the room your monitor is expecting food, and when you dont provide it, he is coming to get it on his own. Im also guessing, but it looks like you have touched some type of food (mouse, etc) to the outside of your cage door at some point. Your monitor in that second video is smelling something food related on the outside of your door. Might be that same thing that is making it want to get through the door in the first video.

I have never touched a mouse to the doors, but can give them a wipe down and see if that makes a difference (they are due for a cleaning anyways

). I had been only going into the enclosure mainly to feed and do cage maintenance, but after him becoming food frenzied every time I opened the door, it was suggested on here that I start spending time with him without food- which was started just the other week. I have been seeing an improvement already, but it should take a while until he stops trying to eat me whenever I open the doors

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In the first video, I was cleaning up my room, and he wanted to come out and explore I think. Not sure what was going on in the second vid- I think he may have been wondering what the heck the magnet on the door was, or your right that he could have been smelling some sort of food item. I'll see if there's a difference once I wipe down the doors.

I had posted some photos a while ago on another forum, and was told it was most likely a male, but can get some recent tail base shots and stick them up here when I get a moment.