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Old 11-02-12, 06:12 AM   #31
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Re: Atheris broadleyi CB 2011 female

That's a very nice collection!!! I'm emailing a guy right now about atheris ceratophora. He has 2 very nice looking snakes I really hope to get one. Do you know if your friend that keeps atheris in NY has any available?
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Re: Atheris broadleyi CB 2011 female

I think he has some baby squams that are due to be born soon. If he does, he'll bring them to the next Hamburg show. I'm hoping to get a red male squam from him. Is it Marty you're asking about the ceratophora? He was supposed to be getting a shipment in. I had a cerat for years; she was a cool snake. Had the worst temper I've ever seen on a snake, but it was almost amusing because she was so small and it was fairly easy to avoid her strikes. She'd get so mad that she'd just sit there with her mouth gaping open, fangs extended, hissing.
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Old 11-02-12, 11:01 AM   #33
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No it's someone named Peter. He has an add on venemousreptiles.org he has 2 females! And put me in for any colored female squam! Lol I really wana breed my red male!
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Re: Atheris broadleyi CB 2011 female

Ok will do...are you going to go to any of the PA reptile shows?
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Old 11-02-12, 03:20 PM   #35
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No but I really want to I'm from nc so I normally go to the sc shows. There's one this weekend actually
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Old 11-06-12, 09:54 AM   #36
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Re: Atheris broadleyi CB 2011 female

lucky you, i have to wait till 2014 for the next show in my area.

i love bush vipers, they look like the snake version of the porkipine.
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Re: Atheris broadleyi CB 2011 female

Haha, they do look like scaly porcupines! I love their bristly appearance and their large eyes. Sunday night, when feeding, I got a bit of a fright. Nagini, my broadleyi x squam cross, had just shed, and she was feeling cantankerous, so when I went to feed her she rocketed out of her cage and tried to make a break for it across the desk! I caught her with the feeding tongs as gently as I could and got her back into her cage, but I was all adrenaline-hyped. She has quite the set of fangs, and no antivenin is available to treat a bite from her!
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hahaha!, my rat snake does that when i feed her, its very annoying.
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Her scales are freakin sweet.
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i love the scales,to, if they werent venomous, i could hold it all day.

i love snakes with rough scales, feels funny.
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Re: Atheris broadleyi CB 2011 female

The rough, leafy scalation, and huge eyes are my favorite things about bush vipers. They look almost unreal. I would absolutely LOVE to own some hispida (hairy bush vipers), but so far no one has been able to keep them alive in captivity.
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Old 11-23-12, 10:33 AM   #42
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Re: Atheris broadleyi CB 2011 female

I love these guys! Do you know how strong their venom is compared to other snakes?
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Re: Atheris broadleyi CB 2011 female

Atheris can have quite a nasty bite. They used to be regarded as minimally venomous, but there have been deaths attributed, mainly to squamigera. However, that may be largely because squams are the most commonly kept of the Atheris.

They are tiny vipers, but they are quite agile and can throw their entire bodies into a strike, flip themselves over, and their strikes are lightning fast. They are fairly easy to work with once you get used to them though. Mine are generally calm and quiet until they are provoked...if you don't disturb their pose or try to shove food at them they will sit motionless on the branches as if they believe you can't see them.

It is also important to keep in mind that there is no antivenin available to treat Atheris bites. Some success using sawscale viper antivenin has been achieved, but it's not a guarantee. I know people who've been bitten and had mild swelling and stiffness for a few weeks, and others who have permanent damage from the bites...so basically, don't get bitten.
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Thanks for the info. Very interesting!
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No problem. I adore arboreal vipers and enjoy talking to others about them.
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