The varanus salvadorii thread - Croc Monitors

philipniceguy · 07-31-12, 06:00 PM

Hi,
new to this forum but someone directed me here. He thought there maybe someone on here he thinks is called Vincent who has had success with breeding croc monitors. I keep a pair myself been keeping croc monitors for far few years now (though not these two) I have a far amount of knowledge on them but wanting to get other keepers advice. My pair have been introduced a few times but only the most recent time they mated a number of times over 2 days, on my youtube if you want to see. basicly I'm after advice from ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BRED THEM. what I'm wanting to know is:

what did the female end up laying her eggs in? eg substrate, size, temp
how long from copulation to egg laying?
what temperature did you incubate your eggs at?
for how long?

and any other extra advice you think I may need.

Like I said I got a ruff idea but any first hand knowledge is gladly taken on board to guide me at all.

infernalis · 07-31-12, 06:12 PM

Welcome mate.. good to see you here.

philipniceguy · 07-31-12, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

Welcome mate.. good to see you here.

thanks very much, did not realise you was on here, nice to see a friendly bunch

infernalis · 07-31-12, 06:47 PM

You will see at least a couple familiar names.

Shane frequents quite a bit.

I see some of the same people at RFUK that are regulars here.

I know people will really like to see your great enclosures and properly cared for animals...

Gatorhunter1231 · 07-31-12, 07:47 PM

Vincent is not here-sorry.
I believe you have picked my brain before on other forums. Mine all ended up to be infertiles bought I can answer your questions based on what my female was choosing to do.
1) Substrate all three times. I provided multiple nest box and a large trash can and all were heated but she choose a decaying pile of mulch, leaves and dirt twice at a depth of 12in or so. She also laid in the dirt (after removing an nest box from location) that was near the basking spot and at a depth of 24-30in (freakin huge hole).

2)Mine seemed to lay 20-30 days after cycling (confrimed mating should be around the same time). Dave could shed some better light on that was suspect its close to the same for his lace monitors.

3)86 degrees fahrenheit. till eggs pruned. The norm for monitor eggs. High humidty and mid 80's will get you there. You will be waiting for a while. Large monitor eggs seemed to go 200 plus days before hatching.

Vincent is VaranusFricano from another forum you are already on

Other things I have noticed is food consumption is increase a lot. She will start to test dig a lot. Pay attention to what she seems to like. I would supply nest boxes and deep substrate. Each monitor is an individual so give her all the options you can at least for the first few times. Keep nest areas in mid 80's. Get the male out after the mating stops. She will start to become territorial. I have been chased out the cage by my female more then once after she laid.

I hope you get this

philipniceguy · 08-01-12, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infernalis

You will see at least a couple familiar names.

Shane frequents quite a bit.

I see some of the same people at RFUK that are regulars here.

I know people will really like to see your great enclosures and properly cared for animals...

I noticed a few of them

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gatorhunter1231

Vincent is not here-sorry.
I believe you have picked my brain before on other forums. Mine all ended up to be infertiles bought I can answer your questions based on what my female was choosing to do.
1) Substrate all three times. I provided multiple nest box and a large trash can and all were heated but she choose a decaying pile of mulch, leaves and dirt twice at a depth of 12in or so. She also laid in the dirt (after removing an nest box from location) that was near the basking spot and at a depth of 24-30in (freakin huge hole).

2)Mine seemed to lay 20-30 days after cycling (confrimed mating should be around the same time). Dave could shed some better light on that was suspect its close to the same for his lace monitors.

3)86 degrees fahrenheit. till eggs pruned. The norm for monitor eggs. High humidty and mid 80's will get you there. You will be waiting for a while. Large monitor eggs seemed to go 200 plus days before hatching.

Vincent is VaranusFricano from another forum you are already on

Other things I have noticed is food consumption is increase a lot. She will start to test dig a lot. Pay attention to what she seems to like. I would supply nest boxes and deep substrate. Each monitor is an individual so give her all the options you can at least for the first few times. Keep nest areas in mid 80's. Get the male out after the mating stops. She will start to become territorial. I have been chased out the cage by my female more then once after she laid.
I hope you get this

I also hope to get that. whos it that one? yes your correct I have picked your brains before I think it was about introducing them (maybe). your info is helpfull, I just want to do all I can to give my female (Nasher) the chance to be happy/healthy and me the chance to hatch healthy eggs. thanks again for the info, I'll track him down on another forum then LOL. I have added a area of 8ft L 2ft W 3ft-3.5ft H area for her to hopefully lay in (if shes gravid that is). I'm making a incubator today. I'll keep you all posted. I took the male out on the 3rd day of them being together as mating was stoped and my male (dasher) was just chasing the female around, I could see shes had enough so split them up.

here is some pictures for people who haven't seen my two on anther forum.

them mating sorry for poor picture it's from IPcam installed video on youtube is better

Nashers eye up very close.

Nasher yawning

the extra wood added to install extra deep substrate.

the added substrate

Nasher digging small holes everywere since.

Dasher on his shelf

the male Dasher

varanus_mad · 08-01-12, 10:35 AM

Ello phil good to see you.

jarich · 08-01-12, 10:42 AM

Hey Phil, welcome to this forum. Always good to see more pictures of your monitors

Pirarucu · 08-01-12, 10:53 AM

Very nice Crocs, I believe we need more pictures. LOL

philipniceguy · 08-01-12, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pirarucu

Very nice Crocs, I believe we need more pictures. LOL

I'll let you have one more of Nashers right eye taken today

and as the above link didn't work here is a link to my pair mating on the females basking area. not really a good idea is it was rather hot in there that day
Crocodile monitors mating mark 1 - YouTube

SnakeyJay · 08-01-12, 04:19 PM

What stunning animals.. I don't keep monitors at all, but had to say these are stunning as there's no like button.

infernalis · 08-01-12, 05:35 PM

I just fixed post number 10.

We have a youtube player here.

philipniceguy · 08-01-12, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infernalis

I just fixed post number 10.

We have a youtube player here.

thanks very much I tried to do it myself, but still learning all the forum stuff TBH

if that works EDIT: see quick learner. this clip is what happened the first time they met over a month ago

infernalis · 08-01-12, 06:56 PM

Renamed thread because of the direction it is now going.

MDT · 08-01-12, 08:44 PM

Man....those things are so cool. Almost velociraptor-ish in appearance. Sorry Philip, I have nothing to add regarding husbandry, but I really look forward to more pictures.