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04-12-12, 03:56 PM
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Re: Disease?
Is that suspected crypto or confirmed?
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04-12-12, 04:14 PM
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Re: Disease?
Suspected, test results won't be back till Monday. She is fairly certain tho.
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04-12-12, 05:34 PM
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Re: Disease?
Does that mean I could lose my collection by having bearded dragons?
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04-12-12, 05:49 PM
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Re: Disease?
Oh I doubt it ! Sorry, they would have has to been exposed to crypto beforehand to be carriers of it.
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04-12-12, 09:44 PM
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Re: Disease?
So sorry to hear about this. That was why I asked about lumps in my initial post. This is almost certainly crypto.
Cryptosporidium serpentis is a protozoan parasite that infects various species of reptiles. It is transmitted by a fecal oral route. It invades the wall of the stomach causing swelling/regurge and it passes an oocyst into the environment that is extremely difficult to kill and can be infective for months. Unfortunately negative fecal tests do not mean the animal is negative. Colubrid snakes, leopard geckos, and beardies are all very susceptible.
You should absolutely not let snakes leave your collection (or obviously get any new ones) and you should be careful not to bring the disease to others collections on your cloths or equipment you sell. You should also talk to the breeder and try to convince her to talk to everyone that she has sold snakes to recently. Some snakes become symptomatic quickly but others can be asymptomatic carriers. Probably depends on both the variety of the bug as well as the health of the host.
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04-12-12, 10:28 PM
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Re: Disease?
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Originally Posted by Carlie
Oh I doubt it ! Sorry, they would have has to been exposed to crypto beforehand to be carriers of it.
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OK, good *relief*
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0.1 pueblan milk snake, 1.1 mexican black king snake, 1.1 cali king snake 8.10 corn snakes, 1.1 texas rat snake, black rat snake, 1.1 blonde trans pecos rat snakes, 1.0 mexican night snake, 0.1 western hognose, 0.1 irian jaya carpet python, 3.3 ball pythons, 0.1 blue tongued skink, 0.0.1 bearded dragon, 0.0.1 crested gecko and 1.0.1 three toed box turtles
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04-12-12, 11:16 PM
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Re: Disease?
I know it is almost certainly crypto. But I am still waiting for tests to come back positive before I euthanize any snakes - even though I am debating 'helping' the golddust on his way. The only reason why I am leaving him for now is if the test comes back negative I would like it redone, and I would rather not pay a registration fee for another snake. If he dose happen to pass a necropsy will be preformed Monday if the tests come back negative, if not.. well there's no need.
This is just such a mess I don't know what to do anymore. I think the two who have lumps tho is a dead give away for crypto. I am preparing myself as best I can. And almost hoping the test comes back positive, just so I can put an end to this anxiety.
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04-13-12, 07:03 AM
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As I suspected he did not make the night. I don't know if his body is still 'good' as it had a bit of a smell to him, but he is in the freezer anyways in case of negative tests.
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04-13-12, 07:15 AM
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Re: Disease?
From what I understand freezing a snake ruins the necropsy.
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04-13-12, 07:35 AM
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Re: Disease?
I have been calling the vet to see what is the best way to preserve him but every time they put me on hold I get disconnected, so for now he is in the freezer.
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04-13-12, 08:04 AM
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Re: Disease?
Quote:
Originally Posted by korbin5895
from what i understand freezing a snake ruins the necropsy.
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^^^^^this^^^^^
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04-13-12, 08:22 AM
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Re: Disease?
He has been moved to the fridge. He goes in to get a necropsy done in 3 hours.
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04-13-12, 09:52 AM
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mamma bear
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Re: Disease?
sorry hun. that sucks.
I hope you figure it one way or the other, for your snakes and your own sake.
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04-13-12, 11:17 AM
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Re: Disease?
I'm really sorry, what's up with the scale discoloration on his belly?
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04-13-12, 12:00 PM
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mamma bear
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Re: Disease?
thier liver bursts shortly after death, regardless of COD, that is what the greenish is
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