Boas are in the ban crosshairs - Page 3

Skumbo · 02-28-12, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

^^^ agreed and I completely know where that is coming from what I don't like is when it's compared to stuff like the Genocide the Jews faced. The breeders loosing business IS a real problem. However calling keepers 'lazy' is inappropriate in my opinion when there are other fights out there with bigger and worse circumstances.

I hope it works out for everyone. I just don't want it confused with a human right considering when the auto market crashed I didn't hear of people rushing to call senators... That affected thousands too.

Yup!

Or when my family lost millions (that we didnt have) because nobody wanted to buy motorcycles (Harley dealerships) so he paid all his employees out of pocket since the income didn't cover it at all. My dad ended up using all of his saved money (hes almost 60 and has been a successful business man for a long time) we bled out about $90,000 a month for 3 years paying employees when he easily could have just fired everyone, closed up shop, and called it a retirement. Hes just now working his way out of the hole and trying to sell off all the businesses to break even because we got screwed over so badly. And who gets billions from the government?

Car makers, of course. Who make thousands of job cuts just so they can have bigger bonuses..

The world isnt fair, but we can only fight our own battles as well as we can.

the same may happen to breeders. cut off their income, but they still have to bleed money into keeping these animals alive for 20+ more years

**lady_bug87** · 02-28-12, 10:21 PM

Yea the world is one faint crapfest.

I really respect businessmen like your dad who looks after his employees a lot of people here got screwed over when the auto market crashed in fact a whole time was on the brink of poverty.

I really hope stuff works out for you and your family.

**millertime89** · 02-28-12, 10:47 PM

Those are not my words, he mentioned the poem, and I posted it in its original form as well as the modified version. While I agree with what you said in regards to it being appalling that people compare the two situations, the fact is, the statement holds true. It happened. They got Burms, African and Indian Rock Pythons, and Yellow Anacondas, and look what happened? They took it further.

**millertime89** · 02-28-12, 10:56 PM

Warning: Slightly inflamatory statement. Highlight to read. If you're easily offended, don't read it. If you want to respond to a specific part, make sure you quote the color code too.

I'm a straight shooter and I call it like I see it. Sorry if you don't like it. But I'm really curious about how many people on this board disagree with the ban and have actually done something about it? Do you know what that's called? Free riding. Its a political theory with examples throughout human history. I'm willing to bet most of the people in this thread AREN'T the ones that that's directed at. I would like to think the people on this board are better than that, but let's face the facts, there are going to be some on here. I promise you this is not the only board like this either.

**lady_bug87** · 02-28-12, 11:09 PM

I read it and I wasn't offended I'm also not sure I understand what you're trying to say would you mind clarifying?

**millertime89** · 02-28-12, 11:12 PM

which part? The font color I used was LemonChiffon.

**lady_bug87** · 02-28-12, 11:14 PM

[COLOR="black"][/Just the free riding part I get the curiosity thing just the end I wasn't sure aboutCOLOR]

**millertime89** · 02-28-12, 11:25 PM

Free riding is when people ride on the contributions and efforts of others. This is an example because those people that don't like the ban sit back and rely on the contributions and efforts of those of us actually doing something in the hopes that we succeed.

Skumbo · 02-28-12, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by millertime89

Free riding is when people ride on the contributions and efforts of others. This is an example because those people that don't like the ban sit back and rely on the contributions and efforts of those of us actually doing something in the hopes that we succeed.

its the american way!

(sadly)

**millertime89** · 02-29-12, 12:41 AM

yes, unfortunately. I don't know how many of my classes we've discussed this problem in.

KORBIN5895 · 02-29-12, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by millertime89

While I agree with what you said in regards to it being appalling that people compare the two situations, the fact is, the statement holds true.

Would you mind trying to explain to me how these compare again?

**lady_bug87** · 02-29-12, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Skumbo

its the american way!

(sadly)

It's true. It's like people that don't vote then complain about the government

Norm66 · 02-29-12, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

It's true. It's like people that don't vote then complain about the government

I vote, but very much feel like it doesn't do any good. I almost exclusively vote against candidates rather than for candidates. Our country has a ruling class that can only be swayed by big money special interest and if you're not represented by a big money special interest group you are essentially unrepresented. We can make phone calls, e-mails, send angry messages on snake forums but we can't really change anything.

**millertime89** · 02-29-12, 12:14 PM

found the original edited version

**millertime89** · 02-29-12, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Would you mind trying to explain to me how these compare again?

The government takes away the rights of one group (communists/burm owners and breeders), realize they can get away with it, then move on to the next group, and then the next group.