Euthanasia

[Strutter769]

Originally Posted by exwizard

It is because our customers know what we mean when we say pups. It means 20-29g. This is important for 2 reasons. 1- Some snakes are small enough to where a weaner (30-44g) is too big. 2- Our pricing depends on size; the heavier the weight, the larger the size, the higher the price. Our sizing is based on weight primarily and we use the rodentpro standard so that way there is no question what a rat pup is or any other size for that matter.

What type of scale is used. Obviously digital. Do you have a specific brand name?

[exwizard]

Originally Posted by Strutter769

What type of scale is used. Obviously digital. Do you have a specific brand name?

Yes it is a digital scale and accurate to 1g. Max capacity on it is 5000g or 11 lbs. Anyway these are pics of it. The first one is an overall of what it looks like, the second one is a closeup of the readout and the thirs pic is the label on the bottom giving a brand name and more specific specs and brand name.

[Xanafein]

I'm Sure i'm going to be pissing off ALOT of people when i say this, but Using Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Is extremely inhumane, it is the exact equivalent of sealing them in tupper-ware, it pushes the oxygen from the chamber and gives them nothing to breath

Breaking there necks if done right is the only really painless way i can think of short of spending a rather large amount of cash on a way to administer Carbon Monoxide (CO)

^that wasnt the part that i think will piss people off, this is

I personally have been bitten by so many feeders when feeding Prekilled, that I see no reason in treating them humanely as pets, to me its almost the same as offering a deathrow inmate a last meal ect, You are going to kill them and feed them to your pet anyways, why try and pretty it up by doing it in such an elaborate (and in the case of a CO2 chamber) More painful way?

Done making a complete @$$ out of myself, sorry, i had to get it out there, it irks me that people think a carbon dioxide chamber is like putting them to sleep, and that it is a humane way of doing things If you want something Cheap and painless, Fry their nervous system with an apropriatly applied spinal break, or highvoltage electricity

My friend did that, filled a tub with water, took some jumper cables and a car battery, I guarantee you they where dead the second the current hit, and electricity is one of the ways we execute death row inmates, far more humane also even it it has not killed all of there systems, the brain itself is totaly dead from the first jolt, so they cant feel a thing

[RandyRhoads]

Originally Posted by Xanafein

I personally have been bitten by so many feeders when feeding Prekilled

Did I read this wrong or...............................

[exwizard]

Originally Posted by RandyRhoads

Did I read this wrong or...............................

I think he means just before they are euthanized.

Setting aside whether or not its humane to use dry ice its certainly quick and cheap. In our case, we use a bucket, lid and bowl filled with dry ice. Then we pour water on the dry ice, drop the rats in it and after a few seconds we have dead rats... yeah theyre a little wet from the process and we do have to dry them afterward as a result but the process is really simple.

[Gungirl]

Lmao.. I read that twice before figuring it out

[RandyRhoads]

Originally Posted by Gungirl

Lmao.. I read that twice before figuring it out

Ah I see. Thought someone needed to put down the pipe if they were being bitten by a dead mouse...lol

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by Xanafein

I'm Sure i'm going to be pissing off ALOT of people when i say this, but Using Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Is extremely inhumane, it is the exact equivalent of sealing them in tupper-ware, it pushes the oxygen from the chamber and gives them nothing to breath

Breaking there necks if done right is the only really painless way i can think of short of spending a rather large amount of cash on a way to administer Carbon Monoxide (CO)

^that wasnt the part that i think will piss people off, this is

I personally have been bitten by so many feeders when feeding Prekilled, that I see no reason in treating them humanely as pets, to me its almost the same as offering a deathrow inmate a last meal ect, You are going to kill them and feed them to your pet anyways, why try and pretty it up by doing it in such an elaborate (and in the case of a CO2 chamber) More painful way?

Done making a complete @$$ out of myself, sorry, i had to get it out there, it irks me that people think a carbon dioxide chamber is like putting them to sleep, and that it is a humane way of doing things If you want something Cheap and painless, Fry their nervous system with an apropriatly applied spinal break, or highvoltage electricity

My friend did that, filled a tub with water, took some jumper cables and a car battery, I guarantee you they where dead the second the current hit, and electricity is one of the ways we execute death row inmates, far more humane also even it it has not killed all of there systems, the brain itself is totaly dead from the first jolt, so they cant feel a thing

Personally I agree and don't think less of you. I myself think that an animal is just that...... an animal. I am not saying torture them by shoving red hot needles into them. Co² is co² no matter how you obtain it.

When killing mice or rats I let their head come out of my fist like like peeking out of a tunnel. I then grab their head with my index,middle finger and thumb. Then you just put pressure on those three fingers an the head separates from the spine. Viola!

Rabbits I just grab by the head then snap them like a whip. Be careful or you may end up eating rabbit poop.

[Xanafein]

The whip cracking is an excelent method for rabbits, although it takes a bit of strength to generate the force needed, when i helped my pal feed his retics, would just grab em by the feet and slam there necks against the corner of his anvil rabbits where a bit much for me tho, i think ill probably buy bulk frozen when the time comes to feed anything bigger than rats

[exwizard]

For smaller prey items we just simply used FoodSaver vacuum seal bags; not as wet that way. That is also quick and easy, plus it saves the step needed to bag them before putting them in the freezer.

[Strutter769]

The finished chamber-

[exwizard]

Thats really cool and professional!

[Strutter769]

Originally Posted by exwizard

Thats really cool and professional!

Thanks. While I was still messing with it, I learned the valve on top of the bottle actually IS adjustable! When I bought the tank, I was told it was not, and the first time I tested it, it sure seemed to me that I could not control the gas flow. Turns out I can, so that's a plus. Now, where's that receipt?

New and improved, lightweight model:

[Strutter769]

Originally Posted by exwizard

Yes it is a digital scale and accurate to 1g. Max capacity on it is 5000g or 11 lbs. Anyway these are pics of it. The first one is an overall of what it looks like, the second one is a closeup of the readout and the thirs pic is the label on the bottom giving a brand name and more specific specs and brand name.

Thanks Wiz!

[Skumbo]

Originally Posted by Xanafein

I'm Sure i'm going to be pissing off ALOT of people when i say this, but Using Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Is extremely inhumane, it is the exact equivalent of sealing them in tupper-ware, it pushes the oxygen from the chamber and gives them nothing to breath

Breaking there necks if done right is the only really painless way i can think of short of spending a rather large amount of cash on a way to administer Carbon Monoxide (CO)

Exactly.


In the long run, really anything you do is, at worst, going to be about the same pain as being bit in the face then constricted to death.

I have seen some "put them in a bag and swing them against a hard surface" to kill them (not on this site, i don't believe) suggestions, which to me, is just stupid. it's not hard to break the neck of such a small animal, people just don't want to kill a fuzzy little cute thing with their bare hands. Honestly, if it wasn't for the risk of injury to a snake, i'd just feed live, at least that would be the "natural" way of them dying.