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02-13-12, 05:06 PM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Euthanasia
What a morbid topic!
Ok, I'm completing my gas chamber today, and NOT looking forward to using it. Before I do, I have a question. How long after removing them from the chamber can I freeze/feed them? Well, not them, but the snakes.
Thanks!
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02-13-12, 05:09 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: Euthanasia
Once I remove mine from the gas chamber they go right into proper bags and then the deep freeze. So all in all 10 minutes if that.As far as how long you have to wait before using them as food... you don't. If you freeze all of them on Thursday then decide to feed a snake on Friday go ahead. Thaw it out and heat it up. Just like if you bought hamburg at the store monday morning ,threw it in the freezer when you got home then decided to use it for dinner. No harm done.
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02-13-12, 05:09 PM
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Re: Euthanasia
Right after we gas them, we dry them because they usually get a little wet from the process but as soon as they are dry they get bagged and go into the freezer. Thats how we do it.
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02-13-12, 05:24 PM
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Re: Euthanasia
dont gas them too fast if you do its really painful for the rats, after i gas mines i put them on the scale then add the date and weight on the back and put them in the freezer.
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02-13-12, 06:55 PM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Re: Euthanasia
Hey, thanks for the replies. I wasn't sure if the CO2 needed to dissipate or anything. So, should the mice be rinsed prior to freezing/feeding? Can the go directly from chamber to snake?
Jenn, why do you tale the extra step of weighing after bagging?
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02-13-12, 07:03 PM
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Re: Euthanasia
i like to know what size im feeding like a rat thats 78g is a small rat
you dont need to rinse off the rats just put in bag then freezer or feed to snakes
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02-13-12, 07:27 PM
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Re: Euthanasia
Me I break their necks. Cheaper. Or I just toss them in a Tupperware container and seal it. For rabbits I break their necks or I have a five gallon bucket with a sealed lid.
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02-13-12, 07:29 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: Euthanasia
Kevin.. your not nice
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02-13-12, 07:32 PM
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Re: Euthanasia
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Originally Posted by Strutter769
Jenn, why do you tale the extra step of weighing after bagging?
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We weigh them as well for the same reason. We do have standard sizing and that is by weight.
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02-13-12, 07:35 PM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Re: Euthanasia
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Kevin.. your not nice
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Fo'shizzle! I'm dreading watching them just fall asleep! Lol Ok, so I need to thicken my skin a bit. All in due time! Lol
Thanks again Jenn.
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02-13-12, 07:37 PM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Re: Euthanasia
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We weigh them as well for the same reason. We do have standard sizing and that is by weight.
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Is weighing also important for rat pups? That's the stage where my girls are now. And if I'm just feeding my breeders, is it important to know when they switch from a smaller rat to a medium?
I understand how it can be important for snakes that are for sale.
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02-13-12, 07:54 PM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Re: Euthanasia
Ok, Marcy needs to know what to expect...... Will they be scratching and clawing the wall (assuming I add the gas at the proper, slow rate), or just fall asleep? My chamber is 16" x 7" x 6". How long should the process take? 1 minute, 5 minutes?
Just trying to prepare us,the best I can. It was just awful putting the last batch in the freezer to die a slow, painful and icy death!!
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02-13-12, 08:10 PM
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Village Idiot
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Re: Euthanasia
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Originally Posted by Gungirl
Kevin.. your not nice
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Honestly I almost posted that myself.
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Originally Posted by Strutter769
Fo'shizzle! I'm dreading watching them just fall asleep! Lol Ok, so I need to thicken my skin a bit. All in due time! Lol
Thanks again Jenn.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strutter769
Ok, Marcy needs to know what to expect...... Will they be scratching and clawing the wall (assuming I add the gas at the proper, slow rate), or just fall asleep? My chamber is 16" x 7" x 6". How long should the process take? 1 minute, 5 minutes?
Just trying to prepare us,the best I can. It was just awful putting the last batch in the freezer to die a slow, painful and icy death!!
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Five mice in a Tupperware container used for a sandwich took about 3 minutes. Also in the Tupperware they just fall asleep. It is just like using coČ. They create the coČ themselves. I have also put them in a freezer with wood shavings. IMO hypothermia would be pretty painless for them. But refer to Kat's post about me.
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02-13-12, 09:13 PM
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Re: Euthanasia
I don't think hypothermia is very painless with the muscle failure/spasms and lethal dysrythmias . How are you constructing this? If you're that worried about the pain of the nasty mice you could always shoot in some nitrous oxide from a whipped cream dispenser before/during the CO2.
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02-13-12, 09:36 PM
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Village Idiot
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Re: Euthanasia
Well mice take less than 7 minutes to die in the freezer. Could've been the lack of oxygen too though. I have seen several things that have died in the winter.never seen any signs of thrashing about in the snow though.
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