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Old 06-08-11, 08:06 PM   #16
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Re: What kind of snake is this?

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this is what is wrong with people. there first reaction is to kill the unknown to protect them selfs, when the snake is the only thing in any danger.
sad how uneducated people are about the world with so much widely available information.
I like how he asked if it was poisonous or not, implying he might go after the other one like we should kill off all the poisonous snakes.
Poison is Ingested, venom is Injected.

There is nothing wrong with killing something in self defence or to defend others. We weren't told the story behind why he killed the animal, for all we know the snake was going towards a newborn baby... I doubt that's the case but we cant judge without knowing.
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Old 06-08-11, 08:33 PM   #17
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Re: What kind of snake is this?

I am not a fan of killing snakes or seeing them get killed like this. However we do not know the full story of WHERE the snake was and WHY they felt the need. Could have been in a children's playground, a school yard, around babies of any species, ect. ect. And if I didn't know about an animal I dunno if I would outright kill it, but I would take the steps needed to make sure said unknown animal could not hurt anyone.

At least now this person knows and then in the future will take steps (hopefully) to know if the animal is a true threat or not. For some reason we as humans seem to have an innate fear of certain animals...and that fear for some is greatly inhanced. Some of us learn to control it while others find themselves unable. All we can do is inform them and hope for the best.

That being said...

Thanks for the information, though I'm quit sure I do NOT want to get that close to a snake to tell. Picture is zoomed in and taken after it was dead.

You can look at a snakes head from a standing position 5 feet away and know if it is dangerous or not. The head shapes are just that blatent. So take the time next time and see what you can learn from observation.
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Old 06-08-11, 10:05 PM   #18
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Re: What kind of snake is this?

I have some choice comments about the intelligence of this person, however I shall refrain.

People who kill snakes in the wild just because they see them make me irate, as do people who kill spiders in the wild. Your robbing the ecosystem of balance needlessly when you do such silly things.

The only time you should really be killing snakes you see while your out is the more famous venomous snakes, in your case copperheads and the like, and this is really only if they are in public parks etc, if your an hour into the woods, leave it be.

Also this guy is a troll, how else does one justify signing up to a Pet Reptile Enthusiast forum and going "Durr herpy derp lookit this snake I killed" when you can get a picture of the snake in 10 seconds by typing "common US snakes" into google.
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Old 06-08-11, 10:14 PM   #19
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Re: What kind of snake is this?

I see where your coming from, but to be honest, I have and will kill anything that threatens myself and anyone I care for. I'll try to find an alternative but if it comes to it...
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Old 06-08-11, 10:34 PM   #20
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Re: What kind of snake is this?

That's like saying "that guy looked scary to me, so I killed him. That's justified because the way he looked at me scared me" or a person of a specific race scared you or some you know, there for, it is justifiable for you to immediately kill that person.
Literally the exact same thing. In my opinion anyway.
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Re: What kind of snake is this?

scaring is different then imminent danger. being scared doesn't justify killing, potentially life threatening position is different. If im in a tent and I'm cornered by a snake I cant identify that might be venomous, I'll do my best to remove it gently and safely but the second I'm in danger its gone.
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Old 06-08-11, 10:44 PM   #22
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This guy went out of his way to hunt and kill. The snake was not attacking him or causing any problem.
Just like when I see a grizzly bear, I get out of its way, rather then kill it and ask questions after the fact. When entering a forest, you are in animals' homes, no reason to kill any critter that you happen to come across.
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Didn't read that =/
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Old 06-08-11, 10:51 PM   #24
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He could have just left the snake alone, is all I'm saying. Like most people would do when they come across a creature in its natural environment.
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If there is a snake like this take a pic , ID it on google and if it happens to be venomous then call a person who knows how to deal with these snakes ..... Im just saying
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Re: What kind of snake is this?

i think people who kill snakes need to be properly informed, wayne (infernalis) can we do alittle info leaflet on the dangerous snakes in america and how to easily identify them, and have it so people can easily research and come across it, maybe that will stop the killings alittle.

as for killing a snake to protect my loved ones, would i - NO, for the pure and simple reason being, i know how to handle venomous snakes through handling wild adders.

for those who dont, unless the snakes is actually posing a threat dont touch it, if it is, then try to get help before tackling the snake, only kill as a final life threatening resort/situation.
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i think people who kill snakes need to be properly informed, wayne (infernalis) can we do alittle info leaflet on the dangerous snakes in america and how to easily identify them, and have it so people can easily research and come across it, maybe that will stop the killings alittle.

as for killing a snake to protect my loved ones, would i - NO, for the pure and simple reason being, i know how to handle venomous snakes through handling wild adders.

for those who dont, unless the snakes is actually posing a threat dont touch it, if it is, then try to get help before tackling the snake, only kill as a final life threatening resort/situation.
You ever been bit? I handle Rattlers , Corals and alot more . Blue maylan coral snake bit me once.
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Re: What kind of snake is this?

yh been bit by acouple of adders, weird feeling
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You dont really have any feeling with a Maylayan you just start dying
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I think its time we stop complaining and appreciate the fact that hes attempting to educate himself. Lets just cool it and hope this doesn't happen again.
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