My run of bad luck continues.... - Page 2

Feebo · 05-31-10, 03:28 PM

Cheers guys.... I`ll be speaking to the vet about an appointment tomorrow so I`ll let you know what`s happening......

Feebo · 06-01-10, 01:49 PM

Yep, IBD. My Beautiful female Blood python was put down five mintues after arriving at the vets

I`m buying an industrial atomiser normally used in chicken sheds to fumigate my snake room with dilute F10 every day. I`ll just sit back and see how many snakes die then, there just isn`t anything else I can do. Keep it all clean, all on lockdown, treat everyone for mites and hope I`m lucky.

I just can`t believe how unlucky I`ve been, what a pisser. Just when I thought it was all going really well.....

emseeKAY · 06-01-10, 01:56 PM

really sorry about this whole thing buddy, i hope you dont lose anymore, keeping my fingers crossed for you. good luck feebo

Lankyrob · 06-01-10, 04:35 PM

Maaan!!!! Am totally gutted for you mate - if there is anything i can do give me a shout.

Will pray/keep fingers crossed for your other guys.

dragunov.762 · 06-01-10, 06:31 PM

sorry to hear about the IBD outbreak hopefully you wont loose anything else

marvelfreak · 06-01-10, 07:55 PM

Sorry to here about your BRB, Borneo, and your clutch of carpet eggs. I guess bad luck really does come in threes. Here's hoping the rest of your snakes are ok. I got my fingers crossed for you. I truely feel for you. I lost 3 balls, 2 boas, and a burm to it years ago. It wipe out my whole collection at the time.

Feebo · 06-02-10, 02:31 AM

Cheers.... I`ve just had to resign myself to it now. I`ll be fogging the room everyday as soon as I get my equiptment, I should think that will keep it in check as long as I haven`t got any more mites hanging about. I have an all new hatred for those little sods now. >

Paradise · 06-02-10, 03:13 AM

In a lot of places (RSA)I.B.D. is diagnosed because of the shared symptoms of many other herp diseases. If IBD is your problem I am really sorry to hear. I have 3 boas and the 2 juveniles apparently both have IBD they have been ill since birth 6 months ago none of the other hatchlings got sick or even showed signs of illness. My point is don't worry about the problem until you know what the problem is. Yes I understand the need to protect your other children so by all means quarantine them and treat them, feed them all separately in their own feeding bowls, but make sure you have an IBD issue it may be something totally not related. Turns out my boas had stomach mites last week they started eating by them selves and things are just getting better.
To get IBD in your snake room you must have had contact with a sick snake. IBD does not just happen.
Like the rest of the good people here. I hope you experience a quick recovery from whatever is wrong with your blood python. I really hope it is not IBD!!! and wish you the best of luck. please keep us informed.

shaunyboy · 06-02-10, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Feebo

Yep, IBD. My Beautiful female Blood python was put down five mintues after arriving at the vets

I`m buying an industrial atomiser normally used in chicken sheds to fumigate my snake room with dilute F10 every day. I`ll just sit back and see how many snakes die then, there just isn`t anything else I can do. Keep it all clean, all on lockdown, treat everyone for mites and hope I`m lucky.

I just can`t believe how unlucky I`ve been, what a pisser. Just when I thought it was all going really well.....

did the vet take tissue samples and send them to be tested mate ?

imo i cant see how he can make the diagnosis just by looking at the snake.yes the symptoms of ibd may be showing but there are other causes such as neuro issues that can cause similar symptoms.im not saying hes wrong but surely he sent tissue away to confirm his diagnosis 100%.

did he do a post mortem ? that can show liesons on the liver,kidneys etc.im just puzzled as to how he can be so sure using eyesight only mate.

its a good idea the fumagation but i'd be wanting tests done on the blood python.

i really hope that its only the brb and the blood you loose.i'll have everything crossed for you feebs.
cheers shaun

pepianpel · 06-02-10, 08:42 AM

I'm sorry to hear about your bad luck. I hope that things brighten up for you soon!

Paradise · 06-03-10, 07:03 AM

That really is terrible. I am very sorry but Shaunyboy has a point. There are so many other diseases which can be cured that have the same or at least similar visual symptoms as IBD. They really should have done tests or something. Anything more than just look at the reptile.
The problem I find is that the vets don't see our pets as patients but rather as just another animal. I have met very few vets that share a concern about about our pets well fair. here is to hoping that will change one day soon.
I hope the rest of your collection is safe and health.
The good thing with bad luck is, it goes away eventually.

Feebo · 06-04-10, 02:26 AM

I litterally couldn`t afford an autopsy AND the treatment and equiptment I need so I had to forego the autopsi. However the vet, a specialist herp vet, was confident, given the history, the fact that a Python and a Boa were affected and the symptoms, that it was IBD. I discussed the possibility of neurological issues mimicing the symptoms of IBD and he was still sure of it, IBD. I asked if it was possible, even though I don`t think this was possible, that both thier enclosures were too hot and they both had a stroke.... nope, IBD. What can I do? I have to listen to the herp vet. Whether or not it was IBD, the treatment is going to be the same, fumigate, clean,treat all snakes and enclosures for mites and be on watch for symptoms. My fogger is due today, my wife is moving her arcitecture drawing board and mess and crap and paper out of the room lol and I`ll get started with the big disinfect, although i`ve already given myself rsi spraying the bejeebus out of the entire room......

shaunyboy · 06-04-10, 08:00 AM

sorry mate i didnt take costs into account.im very lucky my vets very qualified,works at 2 zoo's and lectures universitys on zoo and wildlife.he's also an expert at reducing my bills.his exact words to me were id make a s**t buisness man as i hate taking money of people.when my jag got keyhole surgery last month all he took was £146 he clocked off work so i didnt have to pay for his time.long story short he only charged me for the anesthesia.the x rays alone should have been £140.sometimes i forget how lucky i am to have this man practise just down the road from me.its funny you should use the word stroke feebs as thats exactley how my mates boa looked when she got euthinised,like a stroke victim.i'll have my fingers crossed the rest of yours is ok.
cheers shaun

citysnakes · 06-04-10, 09:03 AM

you say the vet is experienced and this and that but a vet that makes a diagnosis like that without proper testing is not one i would want to go to. i think without proper testing, your vet should not have diagnosed IBD.

shaunyboy · 06-04-10, 09:23 AM

in my part of the uk (scotland) by law a vet has to alert the health authoritys about ibd.so vets up here i assume are duty bound to take tissue samples and have them tested.then report the findings to said authoritys.if the client cant pay for it im pretty sure the vet has to go ahead with the tests regardless.

id still have hope feebo as the vet did not back his diagnosis up with tests.
cheers shaun