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Old 12-24-02, 04:52 PM   #1
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Question Need help ID this frog before it dies

I know nothing about amphibians. However I ordered a tropical potted plant from Florida, and when it arrived up here in Washington, I opened the package and a frog jumped out of the soil! I have no idea what type it is or how to care for it. I don't wish to simply "get rid of it", so any help will be greatly appreciated. I've attached pictures in hopes someone can help.

I would like information on what the bugger is, and some care tips such as food/water/houseing etc so that I may keep it alive long enough to find someone who would be more qualified than I. Hopefully I can get a positive ID and some tips because right now I have it in an old cookie jar (with air holes) and some dampened moss and I don't know how long it will stay alive this way. The frog will easily fit on a quarter.
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Old 12-24-02, 04:53 PM   #2
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One more pic

Hope this helps. The camera is a bit lousy and only 25kb files are allowed
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Old 12-24-02, 05:21 PM   #3
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go here

Try going to this site to I d this frog that you have

http://www.wec.ufl.edu/extension/frogs/default.htm

Shows all the frogs of florida If you need info on husbandry Let me know I can probably find something for you

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Old 12-24-02, 05:22 PM   #4
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Found an ID

I found out it's a Eleutherodactylus planirostris planirostris, or "greenhouse frog" after some searching for Florida native frogs. How should I keep it alive? There isn't any care information I can find on this frog.
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hmmmm ... i think i'ts a famouses frogus or Kermit
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Old 12-24-02, 05:30 PM   #6
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try this out

http://allaboutfrogs.org/info/resour...ing/index.html

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Under caresheets, I can't find anything for this frog. However I found two caresheets for Eleutherodactylus, which is the same family (or whatever you call the first latin part in a name). Would it be safe to use this as a general guideline? The specific frog caresheet is for a Puerto Rican Coqui, but the frog I have was brought over from Cuba or the Carribean so I suppose it's "close enough to thereabouts?"

Thanks, it's mighty amazing what the Internet can do for you. If this wasn't here, I'd run to the pet store and come home with a car full of useless things like hampster bedding that the salesman told me "is necessary"
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Id suggest for now just giving a basic frog set up .. give her half dirt half land with branches and throw in some crickets.. I hope this is a type of set up she has until u find a caresheet that tells u what she specifically needs .

Keep in mind I have no Idea what that frog needs but thats what i would do until i find what her proper housing needs are .. give her choices and look to see what she likes..

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Old 12-24-02, 06:00 PM   #9
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How big a tank would be suggested? Its a small frog, would fit on a quarter...perhaps 3/4 inch long. Hopefully the pet store has dinky crickets. Setting up a home doesn't seem that hard but I don't really want an elaborate setup. Would one of those smaller plastic aquarium doodads work?

I can't find any care sheets for "Eleutherodactylus planirostris" or "greenhouse frog" specifically...rather information on how it's an alien frog. The only information I can extrapolate is it likes leaf litter, which is easy to collect here, and eats beetles, centi and millipedes, and earthworms. The only problem is finding bugs in the winter here. We had frost a few days ago.
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Yes a plastic one will work as long as there's a lid! Also make sure there is a little dish of water that it can sit in without drowning (I know sounds weird a frog drowning but some can't actually swim) Just ask for pinhead crickets at the pet store. Also it MIGHT take a small mealworm. My frogs love them. You might also might want to get a UVB lamp just in case it needs it. It shouldn't need to be any more warm then room temp. For the substrate try some jungle litter of some sort. Hope this helps you out a bit!
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It is indeed a greenhouse frog. They're another of the introduced animals here.(FL) They are interesting in that they have no tadpole stage, but rather "hatch" from the eggs often layed in potted plants. (greenhouses). As for food, pin head crickets would probably be o.k. Give it a typical "bog" environ w/ both dry and damp areas. They are often found (all over my house) in wood piles and the like. I often see that s. ringnecks eat them, however I am unsure of the toxicity of their skin secretions. I'm sure if you could get small enough insects and their larvae, you will have little trouble in keeping him happy.
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Old 12-24-02, 08:31 PM   #12
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Well $30 later it's in a proper environment. I purchased some damp mulch stuff that resembles topsoil but without fertilizers at the petstore (not hardware store ) It's in a 5 gallon tank, as I had a heck of a time with the plastic ones. The snapping lid action was bound to break soon. I figure, if this frog expires, I'll have a decent setup for another one because they seem fun. Mine indeed came out of a banana plant I ordered from Florida. It's amazing it's spent 5 days in a dark box traversing the country. The store I visited didn't have pinhead crickets so I got the smallest they have. They still seem too big so on Thrurs I'll try the other place. If not, I'll flip some heavy rocks and catch a few buggers I suppose.

Right now a couple crickets are hopping around and the frog seems uninterested of them. Theres the shallow water bowl (about 1/8" deep) and half a hollow log with damp moss strewn around along with some leaves that came from the said plant. The substrate is about 2" deep and I got it moistened. However how wet should it be?

I think I got the basic living quarters done. Anyone fathom how much and how often this kind, or an average frog eats? I've got the 5 crickets living in the same tank right now.
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You can also see if the petstores have those flightless fruitfly cultures. I've had decent luck with those for tiny frogs but I've never kept any Eleutherodactylus ssp.

Be warned, those cultures claim to be flightless but sometimes you do get flying flies out of them!
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Also be warned that uneaten crickets will in turn eat anything that they can. (including sleeping frogs) So don't keep any that are too big in with him.
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