Smoking - and do your animals have a choice?

[marisa]

Three people at my house smoke.....we have no smoking in the house and definitly no smoking around the snakes.

Marisa

[Mystic Lizzards]

i keep my houes smoke free(both kinds lol) but i do smoke outside only

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

CONNER:

In simple I believe smoking affects everything, be it small or large, be it livinging or not. Smoke alone penetrates just about anything and can layer itself on anything as well. Anything from clothing - walls in a room - furniture - our lungs and that means animals as well will be affected. Actual damage is alot of people' s concern now with health issues on themselves and people around them. So thinking any different about animals is not really an option they are living, they breath, they inhale and some damage is done no matter how you look at it.

Tony

EDIT:

If a simple brush fire in nature can cause smoke problems if breathed in, think about all those chemicals in cigarettes as well, and our (everyone' s) animals where never ready to be put in that situation.

[wizbit13]

Me and my better half both smoke, and yes we do smoke in the same rooms as our snakes. I have 2 in the living room and one in the room I am sat in now typing this, where I spend most of my time. I have never really thought about this 'smoking around reptiles' thing until now. Is there any known disadvantages of doing it? Maybe I will try to smoke outside a little more from now on.

Adam

[ravensgait]

Yeah smoking is bad for ya !yada yada yada, Man you can't even visit reptile forums now without some yahoo's going on about it as they eat their junk food and sit their overweight selves in front of their computers sucking down a soft drink.
I think our little captive friends have more things to worry about then some second hand smoke.

Someone said something about their cats and reptiles not having cig smoke in their natural environments IE their house??? Um hate to mention this to ya but a house isn't a natural environment to them.

Have a BCI with a two pack a day habit and a ETB who smokes like a chimney, going broke just trying to feed their habits!

[beanersmysav]

Originally posted by ravensgait
Yeah smoking is bad for ya !yada yada yada, Man you can't even visit reptile forums now without some yahoo's going on about it as they eat their junk food and sit their overweight selves in front of their computers sucking down a soft drink.

Way to stereotype I exercise 3 times a day everday but Sunday, eat healthy, and drink tea. Someones offended eh? But you're right smoking great for you, I mean who care if they have to smoke cigarettes through a hole in their throat some day.

[Shad0w]

beanersmysav,

Im with you... excercise regularly, eat healthy and love green tea

What I find misleading about ravensgait is that even if someone was eating poorly or sucking back on a softdrink.. that doesnt mean that everyone around that person including herps are forced to do the same... unfortunately, with second hand smoke.. everyone including herps in the near vicinity are FORCED to become smokers...

Im sorry... why do SOME (not all) smokers think that their right to smoke is more important than other people's right not to? I mean what about common courtesy ? Its easy... take it outside

[HeatherRose]

Someone said something about their cats and reptiles not having cig smoke in their natural environments IE their house??? Um hate to mention this to ya but a house isn't a natural environment to them.

Hate to mention this to you but I never said my house was my cats' or herps' natural environment...

[Bartman]

The only thing I smoke in my room, which is the herp room, is my nargila. For those of you who dont know what this is, its a middle eastern thing where you smoke flavoured tabacco out of a hooka. Anyways, I leave the windows open anyway as well as the door, so I wouldnt see this is being a problem for the rep's.

[Removed_2815]

Originally posted by ravensgait
Man you can't even visit reptile forums now without some yahoo's going on about it as they eat their junk food and sit their overweight selves in front of their computers sucking down a soft drink.

I assume you're describing yourself, and to you this must mean we're all obese computer-jockeys, right? If you don't like the discussion, don't participate.

Originally posted by ravensgait
I think our little captive friends have more things to worry about then some second hand smoke.

Provided all of their husbandry requirements are being met, what else is there to worry about? Second hand smoke is a legitimate concern for any respiring organism.

Originally posted by ravensgait
Someone said something about their cats and reptiles not having cig smoke in their natural environments IE their house??? Um hate to mention this to ya but a house isn't a natural environment to them.

We still try to replicate their natural environments as close as possible. I wouldn't subject an Eastern Box turtle to a completely aquatic captive environment (as this would not replicate their natural environment), nor would I subject it to a disgusting, smoke-filled, carcinogenic captive environment.

Ryan

[ohh_kristina]

No smoking in the house! I have come close to head butting someone who walked into my house with a cigarette. Enter with cigarette and death is imminent!!

[latazyo]

cigarette smoking has been proven to hurt dogs and cause problems with them...I'm guessing it could also affect any air breathing speciest similarly

[beanersmysav]

Especially air breathing species with such a small lung!(I believe most if not all snakes have one lung? Is that correct?)

[Andy_G]

Don't smoke around your animals...harmful or not, they shouldn't have to breathe in that crap. Snakes have two lungs, but one is a vestigial(sp?) organ which basically means that it has no use. It is much smaller then the other, in some species it is used a little bit, but in most it's not used at all.

[beanersmysav]

Oh ok maybe that's what I read was one useful lung but one useless lung is just as good as not having one IMO. But I agree with people saying people who smoke think it's ultimately their right to smoke but no one else has the right now to inhalf their smoke.