Nurseries

[RDexotics]

musta been typing that at the same time lol

[CarlC]

There is no problem at all raising in groups for a little bit. Some species tolerate it better thans others so judement needs to be used.
Of the like 20+ species I have had babies from only a few couldn't be housed together for a month or so. I didn't use tanks all the time but weither it is screen or a good sized tank as long as it is not overfilled with babies you should be ok.
One thing that should be stressed is the longer they are kept in groups you run the risk of seeing problems like stunted growth.

Carl

[galad]

Thank you Carl
yes now isnt that what I was talking about just what carl said at the end of his post.. Maybe you guys should read my posts more carefully as well. I have never said I have raised baby chameleons before, but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out which would be the best way to raise them. And from reading many articles on raising baby chameleons, housing them idividualy seems to be the best method. Sure it is more work and may cost a bit more, but the quality of every single baby would add up for all that extra.
BUt hey I dont know anything just because I have not raised any yet. Comeon people. OH but Carl has experience and he said exactly what I did in the end of his post. But hes right and im wrong.

Yea that makes alot of sence. YOu guys need to take a step back and take a good long look at yourselves. Seems to me like you guys think you are so much better and so much more knowledgeable just because youve hatched some eggs and I havent?
Yes experience is a good thing to have but it is not absolutly necessary when dealing with things that to me just require alittle common sence.
LIke carl said in anouther post. "I have been called worse, by much better" Well isnt that quite arrogant. JUSt because someone has been in the industry longer then someone else, and keep lots of reptiles in no way means they are better then me.
The probleme is most of you think this way. YOu all need to get off the high horse and come back to realitly. You are not better then other people because you have more experience.

And I am not imagining things, because I see people talking down to others all the time in this forum.

[Chris_Anderson]

Originally posted by galad
Thank you Carl
yes now isnt that what I was talking about just what carl said at the end of his post.. Maybe you guys should read my posts more carefully as well. I have never said I have raised baby chameleons before, but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out which would be the best way to raise them. And from reading many articles on raising baby chameleons, housing them idividualy seems to be the best method. Sure it is more work and may cost a bit more, but the quality of every single baby would add up for all that extra.
BUt hey I dont know anything just because I have not raised any yet. Comeon people. OH but Carl has experience and he said exactly what I did in the end of his post. But hes right and im wrong.

The difference is, you said if you can't house them individually you shouldn't be breeding and Carl said that you can house them in groups but that the LONGER you go with them in groups, the more chance of problems as they get older. Thats a big difference. Seems to me you're the one who needs to read your posts more carefully.

Originally posted by galad
Yea that makes alot of sence. YOu guys need to take a step back and take a good long look at yourselves. Seems to me like you guys think you are so much better and so much more knowledgeable just because youve hatched some eggs and I havent?
Yes experience is a good thing to have but it is not absolutly necessary when dealing with things that to me just require alittle common sence.
LIke carl said in anouther post. "I have been called worse, by much better" Well isnt that quite arrogant. JUSt because someone has been in the industry longer then someone else, and keep lots of reptiles in no way means they are better then me.
The probleme is most of you think this way. YOu all need to get off the high horse and come back to realitly. You are not better then other people because you have more experience.

And I am not imagining things, because I see people talking down to others all the time in this forum.

All i could think to myself reading this paragraph was that you are the biggest hypocrit I've seen in a long time. Don't act so arrogant and we won't point out your ignorance. Respect is earned and all you've earned with your attitude is our dislike.

Carl's post was very good and you seem to have misinterpreted it. I've raised babies individually and in groups with success. Both have their pros and cons. Some species do noticably better individually while others do perfectly well in groups with proper attention. It really depends on what the breeder feels most comfortable with and how the babies act in their setup.

Chris

[HeatherRose]

Seems to me like you guys think you are so much better and so much more knowledgeable just because youve hatched some eggs and I havent?

While I don't think this is the case, don't their experiences make their knowledge a bit more valuable? (not MORE valuable than any one elses, just more valuable in general).

I think it's time for everyone to just take a step back, as you all seem to be in agreement anyway. From what I understand, if you've got the space and the infinite resources to house them seperately, go for it, but it's alright to keep them in small groups for a short period of time.

[meow_mix450]

thank you!

Meow

[galad]

yea you know im sorry guys. And looking back at what I had posted yes it was hiprocritical. When people start getting rude and emotions flare I mess up, and say things I shouldn't. I've really got to learn to just keep my mouth shut sometimes.

What Ive been trying to say is that, from everything I have read on raising baby chameleons; housing them individualy seems to be the best way. Now im not saying group housing is wrong, cause obviously people have had alot of sucess doing it.
BUt whoever started this post asked what we though was the best way to house baby chameleons.

From now on Im just going to read the first post and add what I think. Trying to deal with everyone else just starts nothing but trouble obviously.

Sorry guys

peace

[Herpguy2004]

if people are worried about space you can goto canadian tire, rona, or somewhere like that and buy a shoe rack wich has shelves just high enough for shoe boxes.... convienient much?

[DragnDrop]

Originally posted by Herpguy2004
if people are worried about space you can goto canadian tire, rona, or somewhere like that and buy a shoe rack wich has shelves just high enough for shoe boxes.... convienient much?

Chams in shoe boxes, huh?

[dank7oo]

You really should have expanded on that Hilde. Let me take the pleasure of doing so

CHAMELEONS are not SNAKES.

If there are any confusions about my statement, please feel free to drop me a PM.

Jason

[meow_mix450]

lol this thread tunred up side down, soooooo lost

Meow