Is this a good deal??

[Lioness]

on ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...349875682&rd=1

[Lioness]

or this..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...349876052&rd=1

[meow_mix450]

in my opinion this one is better.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...349876052&rd=1

The second deal you can probly get better, and im assuming your in the states lol. the first link where they give you the stuff is not that great, neither is the enclosure.

Meow

[peterm15]

as for price compared to stores.. ya there both good deals.. but you could build one thats alot better for a fraction of the cost... imo

[Lioness]

good points..
thanks

[peterm15]

what are you looking to house???

[meow_mix450]

50 bucks for that amazing enclosure why not? buliding one is just as good. But if you build one and you dont want it anymore you cant sell it. Unlike the really nice enclosures you can sell them if your not that intrested in the hobby. All depends

Meow

[peterm15]

i guess... but thats about the going rate for thoes ones anyways... 75 bucks( i think)... and with the aluminum thoes things are made of and the cheap plastic corners imo there not worth it.....

ive had to replace screens to many times for thoes types of corners... theyed be perfect for a smalle cham.. but there pretty flimsy and easily damaged.. you could build one that size for prob like 20 bucks and if you didnt want it anymore you could toss it.. you would prob get a $20 resale on thoes anyways..

and to top it all off its metal window screen which isnt recomended anyways.. the second one is definatly a better enclosure but still for a fraction of the cost a better one could be made...
meow_mix450... i do agree with you that it is a good deal... but its far from an amazing enclosure... nice portible and light weight but far from amazing.. id buy it... but not as perm. housing.. id use as suggested as a outdoor sunning enclosure

[meow_mix450]

good point, i personally have never had problems with aluminum or metal screens. Well not so far anyway. Ya i wasnt to sure about the cost in the U.S, maybe they could get a better deal up there who knows. But in Canada you cant really find soemthing like like for 40 bucks, but thats in U.S dollars. I bought something like that and paid around 200.00(in canada of course)?

Meow

[K1LOS]

Conversion rate isn't much these days. $40 us is only going to be like $50 cdn. I'm not a big fan of the reptarium cages, but i know lots of people use them. I think that second cage is too small for most chams. Smaller than what i would use.

I disagree you can't sell homemade cages, that all depends on how well you built them and how functional they are. I bet i wouldn't have any probs selling the cham cage that i built, that thing is sweet!

Geoff

[meow_mix450]

ya you have a good point. It all depends how well its made. The 2nd screen enclosure would be great for a 3 month old

Meow

[peterm15]

ya just a small cham... and all these started as home made enclosures anyways...

[meow_mix450]

i think adult chameleons has to have homemade enclosures, cause whats in the amrket really doesnt fit a adult cham

Meow

[Lioness]

well i dont have any chams right now..
but im interested in getting some within the next year. i just want to do research and have everything i need before i go out and by it. i was thinkin..maybe between a veiled and a panther..because i read on one of the posts that these are the best to start out with.

[meow_mix450]

go for panthers. My first chameleon was a panther and worked out great.

Meow