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11-19-04, 06:18 PM
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How long do you give them?
12 small goldfish + 5'' Piranha = 3 days?
What do you guys think  Haha
I never thought I'd be so into fish! They are definately cool pets.
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11-21-04, 02:21 AM
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I would say 2-4 days
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11-21-04, 02:33 AM
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7 Left!
Plus a few heads!
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11-26-04, 06:52 PM
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Hi Boid,
Just do ya know, from feedback, feeder fish aren't the best diet, since feeders can harbor internal paracites, worms, ich can be brought out ect.
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11-26-04, 09:18 PM
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It is also considered cruel to live feed. There are high protein piranha foods on the market.
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11-26-04, 11:35 PM
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Try telling that o my RBP.
He wont take anything but.
But it isnt considered cruel us to feed live mice to reptiles?
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11-26-04, 11:40 PM
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The snakes kill the food before they eat it (and very quickly at that), being eaten alive chunk by chunk isn't exactly the same...on a side note, I feed my snakes dead food, not live, and you should consider the same.
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11-26-04, 11:40 PM
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or feeding crickets too a lizard, it happens in nature so I don't think it is cruel.
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11-26-04, 11:44 PM
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Yeah I am sorry but my heart goes out to those poor little gold fish. You should be a shamed of yourself.
Oh josh that was a joke, maybe I just don't have a heart. I raise rats and then feed them to my snakes live, sometimes I even pet them and play with them and then drop them in with the boa and if they can run through his hide and come out alive I put them back and they can live till the next feeding.
I look at it this way, I am getting rid of one smelly f**ker and feeding my snake.
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11-26-04, 11:46 PM
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Ahhh Im with Boids on this.. I see nothing wrong with feeding live prey...
I go through 100+ live rosy reds for my ally snapper every 10 days... he appreciates the hunt.. allows him to use his "lure" and act like he would in the wild... (he doesnt use it in the absense of live food)
The main reason I dont feed live to my snakes is the fact that the rats can hurt the snake...
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11-27-04, 08:16 AM
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I'm not going to debate the issue of live feeding because it is your decision. But I would like to mention that captive animals hardly live a "natural" life so using "it happens in nature" is not really convincing.
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11-27-04, 09:28 AM
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Andy where did I say I feed live mice or rats to anything?
Considering all I have right now is a RBP.
Please, let me do my thing, and you do yours.
There is a local petstore (where I got him) that specializes in Saltwater. They feed there Volitian Lions, and all there Eels live. I have seen it many times. So, go give them a chat too if you seriously think its so wrong.
PS: My post in no way, is aggreeing to feeding live prey to REPTILES.
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11-27-04, 09:51 AM
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Ah I didnt say "it happens in nature" but in the case of my ally snapper, it brings out natural habits it would do in the wild that it would not do in captivity in the absense of live food.. thats all 
To each their own
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11-27-04, 10:02 AM
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I feed pre-killed mice , rats and rabbits to all my reptiles but i dont see nothing wrong in feeding live goldfish to other fish or turtles and stuff. I have a big pond in my reptile room and i trow in about 50 golfish a week for my turtles (also makes it easy to get goldfish for my salvator) in addition to the gold fish i also give then collards and pellets everyday. If you guys think its cruel or wrong to feed live goldfish id like to hear what you have to say about live crix and worms...lucas
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11-29-04, 12:45 PM
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Even though it is fun to feed piranha feeders, the basic commet (after some time) can affect the production of vitamin B in the fish. Ontop of that, unless they are gut loaded before hand, they really have little nutritional value to them. And there is always the risk of catching a disease.
Try to vary its diet. Red bellies can easily take shrimp and other frozen fish (which is more convient, healthier, aids in color enhancement, and cheaper). It make take a few days of starving, but in the end you'll have a very healthy, big nattereri
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