Is it wrong...

Bartman · 11-16-04, 03:00 PM

...to be pissed off because I just realized today (after probing) that my "female" ball that was sold to me last show, is a freakin male. IM SO MAD!

Is it also wrong to ask the person who sold it to you to either give you a female or your money back? I remember who sold it to me from the show, dont know the name, but I know the guy.

If the guy doesnt want to take it back, anyone want to trade 2 baby females for a rat eating 1.5 year old male?

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!

Ptindy · 11-16-04, 03:04 PM

I would say, not at all. I would be fuming too. Hopefully if I get my male ball reprobed it turns out to be a girl! Haha...I think you should contact him and let him know at least, see what he wants to do about it.

Mike

Vengeance · 11-16-04, 03:04 PM

I'd for for a replacment or your money back for sure, false advertising is allways grounds for a refund or proper exchange for good advertised.

Bartman · 11-16-04, 03:06 PM

I dont know the guys email or anything, but he had a table at the show. If anyone knows the guy, hes sorta skinny, long hair with pony tail (if i remember correctly) and kept a ciggerette box under his shirt on his shoulder. He worked with a guy that had a bird on his shoulder and wore a hat.

Anyone?

Tim_Cranwill · 11-16-04, 03:07 PM

The dealer would be nuts not to refund your money or give you a female in it's place.

You have every right to be a bit P-O'd but remember, accidents happen. There may have been NO intent to "rip you off".

Bartman · 11-16-04, 03:09 PM

No I dont think there was, and im not mad at him, just mad that its a female. The guy behind him probed it as he didnt have a set. Then he said that looks to be forsure a female and me not knowing much bout probing said okay.

I believe he had no intent to rip me off at all. Im still bumbed though

silent_truth · 11-16-04, 03:16 PM

I have to agree with Tim on this one. Though they said it was female, really, unless you're buying stock from an honourable retail store, you're not likely to get a replacement. I think if an animal is "unproven", then asking for a guaranteed sex is a gamble. Though I'm sure many people know how to accurately probe a snake, even some knowledgeable people can make a mistake. It sucks though, I know how you feel. I paid a third more money for a young "children's python" and it turned out to be a spotted python. The snake is great, but I was a bit upset at the misrepresentation of it considering I paid more for a "children's".

It couldn't hurt to ask if the guy has a female that he would trade you for, but I wouldn't expect him to say yes.

Goodluck though.

Matt_K · 11-16-04, 03:31 PM

Before bringing your snake back to this person and asking him to make you a trade for a female.. Maybe you should have a thrid party sex the snake in question.. Is it not possible that you were wrong when you sexed it the second time?? Or whoever you had do it, could have also been wrong.. You've had it sexed two times, it's not going to hurt to have someone else sex it for you again.. (not one of the two previous)

-Matt

capsicum · 11-16-04, 03:40 PM

Thats a bummer, I hope it ends up working in your favor though

TK

BoidKeeper · 11-16-04, 03:47 PM

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Is it wrong...

No. Don't let them give you that, "Well it was sold to me as female." excuse either. If you can't sex a snake or have it sexed then don't sell it as sexed.
I think you should either take the snake back and get your money back or give it back and get a female in its place.
Tim and Matt made great points too.
Cheers,
Trevor

Bartman · 11-16-04, 04:05 PM

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Before bringing your snake back to this person and asking him to make you a trade for a female.. Maybe you should have a thrid party sex the snake in question.. Is it not possible that you were wrong when you sexed it the second time??

No, now it is 100 percent male as the spurs a MASSIVE and the person who probed her is an EXTREMELY intelligent man and has been working with reptiles for a very long time. He is deffinetly not mistaken. I think you could look at this bp and say it was male lol the spurs are HUGE!

Tim_Cranwill · 11-16-04, 04:34 PM

Why put so much emphases on the spurs? You mention that twice in your "100% sure it's a male" post. Why focus on an arbitrary way of determining the sex versus probing or popping which are (IMO) WAY more accurate. If I sold a snake I sexed and then got a call with the word "spurs" mentioned over and over, I would be hesitant to take the person seriously. However, if they told me a friend probed or popped the snake, that would be a different matter.

Visual sexing is only as accurate as the person doing the sexing and even then it's not 100% 100% of the time.

Linds · 11-16-04, 04:38 PM

Some females have spurs every bit as large as males, so that doesn't mean too much. Of course you can't help but be completely po'd at the situation, I wouldn't necessarily be mad at the person. Even the most experienced, well-known people have incorrectly sexed a snake at one time or another. Don't get me wrong, it sucks to the moon to have an animal turn out to be the worng sex, but I would just me mad at the situation, not necessarily the person. It's always a good idea in the future, to find out whether or not sexes are guaranteed, and other such related policies, just to know where you stand in the event something like that arises, if that person hasn't already stated such.

rwg · 11-16-04, 04:53 PM

Was it sold as a sexed female or not? If you were buying it anyway, and they sexed it for you just so you'd know, I wouldn't consider that a guarantee. If you made it clear you wanted to buy a female, and he told you it was a female, you probably have a right to have this corrected in some way. Do breeders tend to guarantee the sex?

Roy

Matt_K · 11-16-04, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Bartman
No, now it is 100 percent male as the spurs a MASSIVE and the person who probed her is an EXTREMELY intelligent man and has been working with reptiles for a very long time. He is deffinetly not mistaken. I think you could look at this bp and say it was male lol the spurs are HUGE!

And this is why I can't be bothered anymore.. You're asking for people's advice and you get it.. Now you're shooting it down because the person that sexed it this time pointed out spurs????

I have purchased animals from a couple VERY experienced herpers and had the sex end up being different.. People make mistakes man.. No matter how 'intelligent' they are.. Get the snake sexed again, end of story..

-Matt