PITBULL ban is happening today - Page 14

Kimo · 10-19-04, 02:15 PM

the only reason its getting big is because only like 10 people are chatting here lol, should just move it to a chat room or somthing lol
Josh

Shad0w · 10-19-04, 02:15 PM

Thats why my animals are behind lock and key.. and each cage has a lock in it also...

Would you keep your dog in a locked kennel at all times?

Kimo · 10-19-04, 02:22 PM

matter of fact, my house is a locked kennel lol, everything is locked, when either in, or out of the house so yes, percautions are always in effect Bob...i m beggining to think there isnt a right or wrong here, but simply a misunderstanding, we find ourselves in agreement more and more.but what i think some people need to admit, is that perhaps they are generalizing and accuseing an innocent breed here, for the actions of a few dozen "mutts"

Josh

Kimo · 10-19-04, 02:32 PM

here i got somthing for you all speacially for you Bob since you were attacked

http://members.aol.com/radogz/find.html

find the American Pit bull Terrier

ydnic · 10-19-04, 02:53 PM

So you have a "right" to walk down the street?! Okay why shouldn`t I have the right to walk down the street WITH my dog? what makes your rights more important than mine?

Kimo · 10-19-04, 03:12 PM

I think we all need to learn to "agree to disagree" i myself am at the forfront of opposing this ban, and I realize, no matter how much facts, or valid points, or views are presented, we all have closed minds to that wich we feel is wrong, and will never see the other side, i'll admit alot of us are trying to see the other side, and albeit we do see the otherside, but still beleive its wrong, myself included, there for, i have presented all of my facts, knowledge, opinions, etc but alas, thats all i can do, there for, i am stepping back from this conversation, hoping that Onatrians make the appropriate choice, and head back to the world of Herps were for some reason, all our views are the same, a pitty we cant defend all animals equally, the way we do herps!

Peace!

Josh

crucified · 10-19-04, 04:28 PM

for all of you Pit Bull-haters... how many of you have actually had the privilege (and yes i do mean privelege.. and i hope i spelt it right too.. ha) to actually work with such a great and wonderful breed (and yes i do mean great and wonderful) such as the bully breeds... cuz how can you make remarks about what you have heard in the media... are you 100% sure that EVERY attack claimed to be a Pit Bull actually a Pit Bull? they never post pictures in the papers or show the actually dog that attacked on the news either.... so how can you k now for sure its not a mistake of breed? it happens alot...

try this game..http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Fin...itbull_v3.html

and if any of you haters find the apbt on the first try then that is (pit)bullsh*t...

www.understand-a-bull.com
learn about the breed.. understand them..
dont point fingers at stuff you dont know..

enjoy..

HeatherRose · 10-19-04, 06:20 PM

Cool game...it took me 11 tries to recognize the pitbull, and even then I wasn't sure. And I've spent countless hours around pitbulls at friends' houses and at the barn I used to work at.

I recommend the video Matt_K posted above as well...

I'd also like to mention that I think Marisa made some excellent points in her post a page or so back...

I've followed the thread in it's entirety, and that's all I have to say so far, other than I'm sick of hearing about it

My heart goes out to all of the responsible animal owners around the world, however.

I'm done.

V.hb · 10-19-04, 07:00 PM

1st try, found it... I wonder why.....

Tim and Julie B · 10-19-04, 09:35 PM

Ken, not once did I say YOU were ignorant!!!!!!!! I did use the word (what, 5 times?) in reference to the train of thought that allows something to be made invisible instead of finding solutions. I really can't believe you have turned my posts into something personal, against you, when I clearly have not. I have been more than fair in all my posts, even clearly stating that they are not from a biased point of view. I have also, on several points, agreed with the thoughts of those AGAINST this possible ban. I don't see what I've done to be singled out by you, but, whatever. Send me a pm if you don't think I should voice my own opinion. Everyone is enjoying the debate, not taking it personal.

Anyways, clearly some are on one side of the kennel, and some are on the other. I don't think I will add to this thread anymore, as it has been fun and long, unless I can finish my research before it (the thread) gets closed

and share it with you all. I want people who have owned bad dogs to be punished, never allowing them to have another pet. I want vicious dogs put down. I don't want good dogs to be penalized when they haven't done anything wrong. I don't want good pet owners to be prevented from keeping the animals they love and care for. Enough said. If anyone wants to talk to me outside the thread, that's great. Pm me or email me. Been fun. When they throw the ban out the window, I'll be back to say HURRAY!!!

Julie

Artemis · 10-19-04, 10:48 PM

wow.

crucified · 10-19-04, 11:04 PM

http://www.dogwatch.net/fight_ontari...el_bryant.html

BWSmith · 10-20-04, 08:28 AM

Pro-Pitbull and Anti-Pitbull arguments aside.

To those that appose the ban ............................... what did you do to try to stop it?

My feeling is that if they are passing unfair legislation, it your duty to oppose it and do something about it. If you do not, then you have no right to complain.

Even laws that seem so rediculous that you think they cannot possibly pass, need to be opposed. i will give you an example here in Atlanta. They proposed a 9 month period where Christmas Lights were illegal. From Feb 1 - Oct 31, no lights. Even if they are part of the permenant decor of a resturant or the like. Everyone laughed it off. With no opposition, it passed. And hundreds of individuals and businesses got fined on a PER BULB BASIS. It was a rediculous law proposed by a crackpot. But noone thought it stood a chance, so noone opposed it.

marisa · 10-20-04, 01:07 PM

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marisa · 10-20-04, 01:07 PM

I wrote emails and letters well before it had reached this point.

They claim emails in favor of the ban were enough to propose it, yet made hardly any mention of emails AGAINST the ban. They even seem to be ignoring the advice of many Ontario vets, who are against the idea completly.

If a government is not taking expert opinions (in this case vets in ontario) then I am sad to say they probably ignored every normal person who bothered to try and oppose it too.

It's really unfortuante. But the bottom line is something DID have to be done, but hopefully it will be more on the side of tougher laws and more education for dog owners, rather than an all out ban.

Marisa