Veiled Breeding, And Egg Questions...

[Kimo]

Ok, so im not sure if this is the right forum to pe posting this, however, after reading tons of literature(sp?) on the breeding of chams, more specifically the female mortality rate after laying, i was somewhat intrigued to try and find a way to help increase the chances of survival, and still maintain a good healthy female Veiled, now 2 days after my chameleon has laid her eggs (33 in total) and eating on par with the amount she consumed before she became gravid, i thought i would share some of my findings. Now you must keep in mind, i only have one breeding to go off of here, so i wouldnt call it "knowledge found" just somthing that worked for me this time!

ok anyways to the point, i decided to mate my female at exactly 1 year of age!, and she's by no means the HUGE veileds you see pictures of in these forums, by her size, most would probably classify her as subadult, well anyways, i bred her to my male! and exactly 28 days after witnessed mating, she laid her eggs, but unlike alot of the sotries, or information i have read, she was super active after covering them up, still looked well hydrated, and none to skinny after her ordeal, i placed her in her cage after she was obviously done, with some fresh meal worms dusted in vitamin/mineral supplement, and calcium and vit d3 after drinking, and taking in 5 or so worms, she found her bed and went to sleep for the night (she laid at 8pm) so anyways....all of this was really just rambling, but im looking for people to give me there input on some of their own experiences breeding chameleons in their prime! (not of overly large size) and if you think perhaps their young age, and size, and the fact they are far more active than your typical sized adults may have contributed to a very healthy clutch, and still healthy mother, that shows no signs of being "drained"

also as this is my first time breeding chameleons i've read so much info, but cant figure out how the eggs are supposed to feel, look! mine are nice and white, and they arnt soft, like leo eggs, they have almost next to no give with slight pressure, and feel extremely full! i already know the temps they need to be kept at, and night temps aswell, and that they should be kept in the dark, because of the "startle effect" with the embryos, and the long wait thats ahead of me but if perhaps someone else could maybe give me some of their own experience, and pointers i would greatly appreciate it!

Josh

P.s. no bashing, if you dont have anything constructive to say, skip this thread, or if you have criticsim (sp?) to make, make it in a polite manner.

[Collide]

sounds like u have had a great experience. i think u are luckey enough to have a female who goes straight to her buisness, soem females are uber parinoid and spend hours making sure the hold is covered to the point that they creat a hill above the hole. My female look uber drained some times more when she got older. i think a one year old female is a good time to lay lookes like u have keept her nice and healthy with a perfect sixe clutch and no early egg development. Keep it up,

As for the eggs what u descriped id normal, any eggs that are infirtal will turn yellow and start to mold with in the first two weeks they need to be removed, but with that size clutch that wont be manny or any.

Congrats its nice to hear good experiences, oh and just because she still look nice and perkey dont mean that it dident take its tole on her.

cheers

B

[Kimo]

oh im sure it took a nice bit of energy to acheive what she did! its just she was so bloody active afterwards, she started climbing around, and basking, eating, and drinking, she literally looked like she did before i ever introduced her to the male!, and her colours were beautiful! it was a lil funny seeing her bright green doing her buisness in the dirt! but other than that, she looks perfect! but as this is my first time breeding Veiled Chameleons, it will also be my last! i love my lil female to death, and i wont put her through it again! just to be safe! but as for the eggs, they all look good except for 4, they were slightly indented when i unearthed them, and also had a tinge of yellow, but this was no more than 10 minutes after she finished, that i unearthed them! but needless to say, those 4 are in their own container, i didnt want them near the really good looking eggs! all eggs are spaced about 2" apart and i have them in spread between two containers! so hopefully this increases my chances of atleast getting some hatchlings, should the worse come about with one of the containers!

Josh


Josh

[meow_mix450]

My experiences with my female panther is almost like yours. She was about 7-8 months old? When my nosy be male went into her cage with out me knowing. Also at excatly 28 days she laid the eggs. 35 of them, all still nice and white. None were yellow. But it took days before she liked the hole she made. The eggs have grown through the 2 months of incubation. After she was done laying it took her a long time for her to cover the hole. When i placed her back into the cage she was very tired, and it was late at night. I gave her fresh water and food she only ate very little and drank very little. But the next day she ate everything. Very active and it had seemed that she didnt hae any eggs at all. Well that was my experience. It was very exiciting

Meow