Enclosure Size Dilemma's

[Wrath]

If you can give me some advice I would really really really appreciate it. My roommate will not let me put my pets anywhere other than in my bedroom, so I'm really stuck for space!

I wanted to ask you guys about tank sizes, and I'm sure no one wants to hear this redundant conversation on the forums, but I'm really hurting for some educated opinions! I am in a bit of a dilemma because I am trying to figure out what to do about my current set up, and what to do about getting another habitat in the same room.

(in inches)
What is the smallest (and most considerate) size enclosure for a rosy boa?
What is the smallest (and most considerate) size enclosure for a ball python?

I currently have my rosy boa in a tank that is 36Lx12Wx12H. Can I move him into a smaller one, say 24Lx12Wx12H? And put the ball in the bigger one??

Or should I just get a bigger one for the ball, and keep the rosy where he is? As I said I am really stuck on space....I have a tank that is 36Lx18Wx18H, but it's in storage, and I have to figure out what to use as a stand! Dilemmas!

I have a feeling that my Rosy is spoiled in that sized tank, but I seriously dont have a problem spoiling him, and I also don't want to put him on the back burner by downsizing his home.

I found this ball python for sale in my area, and the current owners are keeping her in a 20 gallon tank, in my opinion that's too small for a full grown, but what do I know? I have not gone to see her yet, so I don't know how big she really is...

[obeligz]

I feel your pain.
I'll soon start converting one of my bedroom cupboard/wardrobe into a gecko terarium.
Hope you're able to solve your problem in a satisfiying manner.
regards
obeligz

[Quervo]

Hey Wrath .. is it possible to stack the 24 on top of the 36? I made a stand for mine that fit over one tank and allowed me to put one 48 X 24 X 24 on top of a second one. Same floor space .. lots more height.

Yeah I agree with Quervo go verticle. Your in the US and didn't mention finances but check the boaphiles site and look at his. Front opening is a key point, even stacking a top opening on a front opening works for the top. I finally made all my tanks turn to the narrow view, doesn't display as well as I'd like but allowed more tanks lol.

[Linds]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wrath
[B]My roommate will not let me put my pets anywhere other than in my bedroom, so I'm really stuck for space!

Hehehe...one day when I clean up a little more I should post some pics of my room.

I currently have my rosy boa in a tank that is 36Lx12Wx12H. Can I move him into a smaller one, say 24Lx12Wx12H? And put the ball in the bigger one??

That would definitely be ok to do. Many rosy boas can easily live out their lives in a 10 - 15 gallon tank. Your ball should be fine in that size tank as well, but may need something slightly larger down the road.

As forementioned by Quervo and Rev, stackable caging is key in keeping multiple herps in small spaces. Racks are great space savers, and stackable cages are great for larger species.

[Syst3m]

Yea, I agree on the rack suggestion, Unless your Tanks are awesome looking viv's there is nothing wrong with keeping your snakes in rubbermaid containers as long as you maintain them properly. And pay enough attention to the pets.

[hydrosaurus]

id just use the 36x12x12and house them together for now depending on how large they are..... shouldnt cause a problem.

or put together a larger 4 foot tank and do that (1 single tank)

or as said above
rubbermaids are actually alot better for balls espeacially. good humiditiy usage.

[Linds]

House them together?! That would be the biggest mistake. Not only is ait a bad idea to house snakes together, but ESPECIALLY housing different species together. Especially when the species being housed together have COMPLETELY different husbandry requirements. Rosies can't even have water in their aquarium on an ongoing basis and should have 30-40% humidity, they can easily develop respiratory infections, stomatitis, and skin infections from any kind of moisture in their tanks. Balls need 60% humidity and should have free access to water, put them in the same environment as a rosy boa and they will not be able to shed and will develop an R.I. Not to mention the idea that rosy boas are very small snakes, my adult is not much larger than a hatchling ball. Then there is the host specific bacteria you would have to wrorry about. Mixing species is a very bad idea......

[Wrath]

Not to worry, the thought of housing them together never even CROSSED my mind. I realize that they have different needs.

Thanks for all your input! I really don't want to put them in rubbermaid containers for now. For some reason I think that will make me treat them like spare shoes or something....I can fit a 24x12x12 tank on the shelf underneath, and I think I'm just going to switch the rosy to that one, and put the BP in the existing one.

Yes, at some point, I will have to get a rack....but baby steps baby steps.......

I love you guys!