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09-03-03, 02:06 PM
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We are not prey for giant snakes,snakes are proven to be afraid of humans,these pics here are proven fake,for what i know there are only 2 humans that are contricted by a giant snakes, in these 2 cases was it a Burms , one was a 14 year old child that was eaten chicken when the burm was outside his cage,the second one was a dronken man that feld a sleep in the cage whit he's Burm and he was constricded too, non of these was the snake trying to eat the human.
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09-03-03, 05:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by creander
We are not prey for giant snakes,snakes are proven to be afraid of humans,these pics here are proven fake,for what i know there are only 2 humans that are contricted by a giant snakes, in these 2 cases was it a Burms , one was a 14 year old child that was eaten chicken when the burm was outside his cage,the second one was a dronken man that feld a sleep in the cage whit he's Burm and he was constricded too, non of these was the snake trying to eat the human.
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wheres the proof people!?
i think snakes are able to eat people. If a snake is fully grown and hungy, sees a guy who he thinks can eat, it'll take'em.
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09-03-03, 07:41 PM
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I myself believe that snakes have the instinct to eat nearly everything that is alive and of appropriate size, to my mind a large enough snake will eat a human, it is logical and I don t think a snake understands how we taste and our nutritional value!LOL
Thats just my thoughts.
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09-03-03, 08:05 PM
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I agree Large snakes could quite possibly eat humans. If a snake cant get around our shoulders how the hell does it eat a gazzelle with antlers. Plus after its constricted a human its quite possible that your shoulders would be dislocated ribs crushed, we,d go down like a limp noodle
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09-03-03, 11:30 PM
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Mike P its been proven that snakes do not crush bone durring the constricting process, however snakes will eat a prey item feet first now and then.
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09-03-03, 11:35 PM
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if they couldn't get through the shoulders wouldn't they simply crush our shoulders to dis locate them then swollow? Or are they just stupid? not quite sure how smart Giant snakes are, never fed any of my Boids reallly large meals. But thinking about how rectics can take down antilopes and such, i think it would be quite possible.
lets wait and see if someone gets eaten.
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06-11-04, 11:37 AM
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im from the Philippines & there are several incidents of retics eating humans. i don't have pictures but eveidences(documents: videos, pics) are on the local news.
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06-11-04, 04:24 PM
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I saw a picture in National Geographic about 10 years ago of a large python with clearly recognizable water buffolo horns inside of it. It was a youngster of corse but a large meal none the less. Snakes do exist on this planet today that eat people. People in Asia are on average of small stature. It is rare to meet a 6 ft tall asian. I witnessed on many occations the scary size of the Bronx Zoo's now decised 26 ft. retic Samantha. That snake could swallow a human being 5 ft of so and about 125 lbs. You have got to see them in person to appreciate the emence size they possess.
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06-11-04, 04:30 PM
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Oh yea by the way, in referencew to the croc picture above. Crocs do not chew. Anything too large to swallow whole they grab a piece of flesh and spin thier bodie's to dismember the victim. I cannot say for certain if the pic is authentic or not but it is not fake based on that arm being too big. Wildabeasts go 300 lbs and would mess a person up real bad if they wanted to. We have all seen the nile crocs on Animal Planet making short work of wildabeasts.
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06-11-04, 05:01 PM
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::sigh:: Kinda expected better here, some of those responses were the kind of thing I expect to see from AOL users.
How many times do people have to mention the shoulder width before it enters the think skulls of some of you? Have you never seen a snake eat? With very few exceptions, they work one corner of the jaw at a time, the tendons are elastile and can stretch quite wide, but the mouth can't be voluntarily opened wider from side to side, the tissue stretches but that's as far as it goes.
The change in width from head to shoulders is too sharp, too quick to allow purchase around them. In theory extremely small children might represent potential prey but this changes at a very young age, as even toddlers are the wrong shape.
As to swallowing a human feet first... The snake would have to get both feet in the mouth and started down the throat simultaneously for that to work, only one leg or the other and the change in width when hitting the pelvis is just as dramatic as the change in width between neck and shoulder, only compounded because now there's a leg forked off to one side. The jaws of some snakes are fairly powerful but not to the point where they could break or dislocate a human's leg at the hip.
Any reported cases are lies, sensationalism and myth, period. Human deaths? Sure. Humans being consumed... No adults, never has happened and likely never will unless someone has access to parapalegics with no shoulder blades or collar bones.
Good sized crocodilians could certainly kill and potentially consume a person but those pictures don't look particularly authentic to me, the break at the upper arm is too clean and suggests something other than salties or niles yanking pieces off.
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06-11-04, 05:36 PM
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Actually, the theory that a snake cannot get passed a human's shoulder is a myth. Not to burst your bubbles, but it's not true they cannot get passed our shoulders.
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06-13-04, 06:51 AM
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You said that the snake would have to get both feet down before it would be able to consume the human... well, did it ever occur to you that that could possibly be the case? I don't know, but hey, stranger things have happened.
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06-13-04, 07:53 AM
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What about monkeys and apes? Are they prey items on any snakes diet?
If they are, the whole shoulder theory is shot to hell.
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06-13-04, 10:34 AM
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Monkeys are for some boids BUT... the shoulder width is not as extreme. Monkeys are built in a manner which allows them to stand but still leaves them just as comfortable moving on all fours when on the ground, this pushes the shoulders forward rather than to the sides.
Humans have a shoulder width that ranges between about two and a half and three+ times the width of their head, monkeys generally have about 1-1.5 with a thicker (proportionally) neck.
Apes covers a lot of animals... Great apes? None are eaten as an adult, the whole changing bodily proportions as they age thing applies just as it does with us so it's possible that baby chimps or ourangutans get nabbed from time to time but they spend the majority of the period before they begin to grow into an adult shape with their mother as I understand it. Lesser apes like baboons and... um... Gibbons (heh?) have proportions more like those of a monkey than a human being.
And despite what Siretap seems to believe to be true, shoulder width does matter, not simply for the width itself but for the angle at which the width changes.
Getting both feet into the mouth evenly... Are you serious? I tossed it in there because yeah, I suppose if you had someone KOed, tied their feet together and then tried to tease feed a good sized snake they might grab them first but the likelyhood of such conditions being met are so astronomically low as to be a practical impossibility.
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06-13-04, 05:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mike P
I agree Large snakes could quite possibly eat humans. If a snake cant get around our shoulders how the hell does it eat a gazzelle with antlers. Plus after its constricted a human its quite possible that your shoulders would be dislocated ribs crushed, we,d go down like a limp noodle
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The horns(not called antlers on them) are sometimes crushed or snapped back before they are swallowed. The digestive juices will make short work of the "knobs" left. I have been told that they may swallow the horns(assuming the head is bent back, and the horns are lying flush with the body), and while the finish swallowing the gazzelle(or impala, or whatever they are swallowing), the horns will be digested because it takes them so long. Dont quote me on this, but I do know that they have enough strenth to break the horns. I have broken a deer antler before, so im sure a snake could do it. Also, some of the types of horns are different, and are easier to brake/digest. I figure if they had to much of a problem swallowing, they would just spit it out and catch something else.
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