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08-07-03, 02:10 PM
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#31
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Location: Canada
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this man shouldn't be always a varanophil.... With an attitude like that, the "real responsable owner" will be penalised one day....
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11-30-03, 11:05 PM
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#32
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Southern Ont.
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First owner
I'm the first owner of the crocs. That is not why I sold them at all, in fact, that did not even happen(me taking them outside or neighbor complaints or whatever). The reason I "sold" them was because I was making space for retics, and steve refused to negotiate with trades for retics, so I sold them elsewhere. Penny(the idiot who took them for car ride) did not pay for these crocs, and I am still owed the balance.
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11-30-03, 11:17 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: California
Posts: 355
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Has penny been found dead with large gaping bloody wounds on her person yet? With the croc monitors running around the inside of an automobile??
I hope you get your $$ and isn't it horrible to find out what people do to such wonderful animals, unbeknownst to themselves....
good luck,
markb
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11-30-03, 11:21 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Southern Ont.
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crocs
Penny is nowhere to be found. There is nothing I regret more than releasing these animals into such careless hands.
Best regards Mark hope things are well with you.
-MQ
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12-01-03, 05:27 AM
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#35
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Montreal
Posts: 893
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Dear Matt Quinn,
First let me say this hole story is one hard lesson to deal with for me, it was my babies you carelessly sent to the butcher, aim desperately trying to take all the blame on me for having sold these to you, as I see it you where not ready to make the commitment these monitors needed, however retic’s need the same kind of devotion, therefore you’ve gotten me between a rock and a hard place, my croc babies VS my Retic babies!
I really wanted to take this to court, hopping it who’d give you a lesson!
However the lesson was on me, it made me realize just how emotionally involve I am with my animals, now aim more selective of future keepers.
Also I will never again offer this species! And aim grateful you haven’t breed them.
All in all except for my pair of croc,s and Penny’s sever bite, this was a good lesson.
This ordeal has made me realize the need for strict regulation concerning potentially dangerous reptiles, therefore I will work with authorities concerned to regulate there keeping.
None respected agreement ( $300ea was the price not $6000 albino retic)
Hiding city regulation (you are not allowed to keep giant reptiles)
These are my legal points
I suggest you take legal advising before you make a dumb move, its not like your in Arizona where the Canadian justice cant get you.
Rgds
Steeve blain
Ps. Pleas refrain from contacting me in anyway
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12-01-03, 07:52 AM
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#36
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Leader Saskatchewan
Posts: 244
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I have contact info for Penny, as we still speak often. Even though we do not always agree, we still maintain a friendship. She is doing well with the female, so I have heard. Anyone loking to contact her may PM me here.
Sheila
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I have learned silence from the talkative, tolerance from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet, stranger, I am ungrateful to these teachers.
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12-01-03, 04:35 PM
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#37
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Southern Ont.
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First of all, I don't try to contact you, I leave that for the gullible asskissers on this forum.
As for retic, you kept offering me 1.1 Sul babies- I had 1.4 LARGE adult Suls to deal with. And you are the one that offered an albino, I did not ask for one.
AND, I do have a license to keep/propagate specially protected and game reptiles and amphibians in captivity- I have this license for the reticulated python.
So it's wrong that I sold animals >that I payed for< to someone because we were on bad terms at the time of their release?
Do not make assumptions about me, or publicly defemate my character, or question my husbandry skills, or I will do the same to you.
-Matt Quinn
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12-01-03, 05:47 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Montreal
Posts: 893
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assumtions? I kept the emails
the point is you didnt respect an agrement, to sell them back to me for the same price, you said youd take care of them as long as they live, then one day you call me all exited saying your niebores saw them and are goin to make a complaint, and this is terrible as your city regulation prohibit you from keeping these animals (do you think I whod have sold you them knowing this?)
you said youd rather keep retics (you hade 0 nada) at this time, now your saying you hade 1.4 adults, I offered you some babies but you whanted to scam me YES SCAM me by optaining big $$ in echange for some animals I basicly gave you $300ea, you my friend are dishonest and make me sick.
check your mail box, as I realy have no resons to make you any favors, I was clear get legal advising on my last post
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12-01-03, 06:17 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Southern Ont.
Posts: 11
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Reality
Actually, yes I did have 1.4 large adult Sulawesis at that time. I don't want to go over this **** with you here, or anywhere.
You are a story teller, and it really confuses me when I think of possible motives for what arouses your corrupt mindset, so let's drop this issue. I was always a friend to you and would back you and your strange lieing character.
SCAM?! how many freakin scams have you pulled on me with false promises, bogus trips we were supposed to go on
or what happened to "matt, its good to see whos my friend...come visit me and see these crocs hatch, I'll give you 1.1 sorong locale" strangely the time came for me to drive up to see them hatch and that didn't happen. You never had any crocs hatch, ever.
you say you don't keep records of breeding, you just check your incubator daily. So How do you know when the eggs are going to hatch over month before hand like you used to tell me? that doesn't add up.
you say the only reason you don't provide evidence of you hatching your monitors is because the people of the forum don't deserve it-then why do you show pics of copulation?
it's obvious to most of us that you don't breed monitors Steeve, so keep up what youre doing here and eventually the rest will see.
YOU ARE THE BIGGEST SCAM IN CANADA and you still have the people of this forum eating out of your hand. This is your last safe haven and you will ruin this too- all in time when they find out you don't breed monitors and are not a man of your word.
Stop emailing me with legal threats.
Legal action against me? hah! do your worst.
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12-01-03, 06:26 PM
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#40
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Montreal
Posts: 893
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thanks now I can ad slandering too, keep digging yourself
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12-01-03, 06:39 PM
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#41
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Southern Ont.
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Since I still have the shovel in my hand...
All the times you invited the "doubters" to go see your breeding efforts and you never let any of that happen, except for a certain Ontario resident who's name starts with an R, I don't recall any evidence seen by him, does anyone else remember verificaion of viable eggs or CB hatchlings by him?
Or the time you had 17 macraei eggs incubating and I was to Pay top dollar for 5 individuals, drive to montreal and select them personally. That never happened, in fact for when they were supposed to hatch, you did not contact anyone for a month because your computer was broken right? Ok sure!
With you Steeve Blain-if that is your real name, the list of lies goes on and on. And recalling that you publicly admitted to lieing about breeding monitors on KS last year, it makes me wonder who is really digging himself a hole.
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12-01-03, 08:27 PM
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#42
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Montreal
Posts: 893
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Aim not a dealer nor a public facility, I have no obligations to sell give or trade any animals or to have peoples nosing in my collection.
what your saying makes no sense to me whatsoever, you like many others are victims of a snow ball effect, generous slandering on my behalf from the king of monitor breeding ( he is the only monitor breeder I ever invited) nothing that was ever said against me was based on solid facts,
all of you are asking way too much from me, I never claimed anything, however many said I did, all my post are aimed at being informative and helpful nothing more, you have no right to ask more.
I was called every name in the book, and accused of just about anything, it was also said that I don’t keep monitors and that all I needed to do was walk in a pet shop and buy one, it was said that none of my species where in this country, it was said that no lace monitor where in my possession, it was said that I never produced anything, it was said that I wasn’t the father of my kid's so much have been said on such ridiculous things.
it makes me wonder how safe these forums are?
regardless of what you say, you and I have a personal beef
I wont accept any apologies from you
I will make a very real example of how forum nonsense can affect real peoples in real life, so pleas add all you wish to the already elaborate piece of crap you posted, trust me it wont make it any worst for you, I do not care about my reputation on these forums, if I did I who’d have folded long ago!
however aim very tired of all the little peoples taking cheep shots at me for in my opinion nothing of importance.
see you in court body
then you can come back and tell peoples if aim a man of my word
your right this was my last heaven, a place where none of the little peoples came and said stupid things about me, guess its time for me to move on to something more fulfilling.
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12-01-03, 08:40 PM
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#43
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Location: Canada
Age: 51
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give food pig and he will come **** on your porch! I think this is how you call that....
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12-02-03, 12:09 AM
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#44
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Toronto
Age: 43
Posts: 1,405
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Matt, steve is anything but a scammer.. i've dealt with him with no problems.... Hes been incredibly helpful with me.. Maybe you need to work on your attitude to get a step further..
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12-02-03, 12:26 AM
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#45
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: Southern Ont.
Posts: 11
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The only reason I am attacking him now is if you read this page 3 of posts, I clearly asked him not to attack me publicly or I will do the same, Now here we are- it was his choice, not mine.
I was defending false statements made by Steeve about me.
I don't see a meaning to your post at all, but I'm sure many more of his current asskissers will have alot to say about this deal that had nothing do with them.
Happy herping!
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