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07-23-03, 10:07 PM
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identification help
hi. Someone on another forum (non snake related) caught this snake in their backyard. They live in texas, here is a pic. Somebody their figured it was a DeKay brown snake but i wanted to check here to make sure
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07-23-03, 11:32 PM
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Yes, I believe it is a DeKay's Snake (Brown Snake).
Cheers,
RMB
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07-23-03, 11:38 PM
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thanks, i thought so..i have been giving them advice on it as they want to keep it for awhile. They were goin to use a hot rock!!  lol
i couldnt find specific temp gradient for in the tank but i assume that 85 on heated side and 75 on cool side should be fine due to its location
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07-23-03, 11:41 PM
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is that your brown snake or just a reference picture that you found?
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07-23-03, 11:43 PM
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Eek! Yeah, hot rocks are a no no. The temperature gradient you suggested should be fine. I have never kept this native species in captivity (only observed them in the wild). I think all Storeria are notorious slug-eaters so they don't usually fare well in captivity.
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RMB
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07-23-03, 11:44 PM
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That particular specimen was found in Cedar Bog (an historical area in Ohio), near Urbana, Ohio. I take only pictures, so hopefully she was able to deliver those babies 
RMB
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07-23-03, 11:45 PM
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Yes, they eat slugs, worms, soft boddied insects, spiders, minnows, small fish. Why is it that they don't do well in captivity?
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07-23-03, 11:47 PM
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oh ya, i didnt notice that before. She is quit fat there. I wish i was able to go and look for wild snakes here but the local isnt great and the time isnt there..some day though
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07-23-03, 11:49 PM
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I guess I was speaking in reference to keeping them in captivity here in Ontario.... Slugs aren't readily available year-round, I guess you could culture them though.
I suppose they might be able to fare-well in captivity if their diet could be accomodated, I don't really have experience with them.
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RMB
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07-23-03, 11:57 PM
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ohh. ok..i wonder if they could eat crickets? possibly even those dead ones at the pet store? those would be readily available. and supliment with some feeder fish and worms.
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07-24-03, 08:38 AM
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I would probably keep the cage at about 75 degrees. Give them lots of cover. Flat rocks on the substrate. Soil is actually a better substrate for the. You can just feed them bait worms. I cup fed mine and ended up with little ones all over the cage. Shallow water bowl.
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07-24-03, 08:53 AM
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what do u mean by cup feed. Do you just leave the container of worms in the cage all the time and let him feed on his own?
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07-24-03, 09:02 AM
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put him in a deli cup with a worm for feeding time. After he eats, put him back int he cage.
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07-24-03, 09:09 AM
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hi i live in texas and it probably is a dekay but you might also look into it being a whip snake to cuz are whip snakes look alot like that not exactly but alot
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07-24-03, 09:14 AM
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is one worm good enough for a feed? how large? once every 5-7 days as usual?
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