Which snake type would be happy in such an enclosure? - Page 2

Pedroo · 06-25-17, 11:47 PM

[QUOTE= Seriously? You would keep a snake which might grow to 240 cm (8 ft.) in an enclosure of 75 x 50 x 100 cm (2,5 x 2 x 3 ft)?
Roman[/QUOTE]

Actually the exact enclosure size is as follows in inch: 31 long, 21 deep, 40 high
In cm: 80 long, 55 deep, 100 high. Sorry for being imprecise
a 4 feet (48 inch) long adult male ball python is living now in it an it fits him perfectly. He is using every bit of the height.

dannybgoode · 06-25-17, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedroo

Actually the exact enclosure size is as follows in inch: 31 long, 21 deep, 40 high
In cm: 80 long, 55 deep, 100 high. Sorry for being imprecise
a 4 feet (48 inch) long adult male ball python is living now in it an it fits him perfectly. He is using every bit of the height.

I think the point still remains that it's not big enough for a large snake such as a beauty.

It does not surprise me the ball is using all the height - they will climb if given the opportunity, especially the males.

jjhill001 · 06-27-17, 07:05 AM

It's 100 gallon space, maybe I'm not visualizing it correctly because it's not dimensions I normally think about. I'm no stranger to roomy living conditions for my snakes I'm moving my Baird's rat snakes into 36x18x18 enclosures which is 1.5x to 2.0x the typical recommended size in just a couple weeks.

I have a little species book by the Bartletts with basically every common reptile species and their minimum for this species said 75 and that many don't actually end up getting to that huge size. I use that book as a guideline when considering a new species but I always do a lot more reading into a species before actually acquiring it. Upon further research I would have realized that this enclosure would only be good as a grow out while I built the real one.

juviniles_5 · 06-27-17, 07:32 AM

During the day a BP will stay on the ground in a hide. At night they turn into monkeys. When I was younger I used to keep them in my room so I'd constantly see them. They will use the space. Being so high will also make it a little more difficult for it to escape.
Go with a ball python. They're a good snake to learn with

dannybgoode · 06-27-17, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by juviniles_5

During the day a BP will stay on the ground in a hide. At night they turn into monkeys. When I was younger I used to keep them in my room so I'd constantly see them. They will use the space. Being so high will also make it a little more difficult for it to escape.
Go with a ball python. They're a good snake to learn with

I've seen plenty of royals basking on branches under uv light in captivity and I know a number of people who have seen them in similar situations in the wild also.

Pedroo · 08-22-17, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EL Ziggy

Of the 3 choices you mentioned a GTP would probably fit best in that enclosure. Best wishes with whatever you choose.

You were absolutely right. I just added a 2 years old male GTP to my collection and he fits excellent in that enclosure. I moved my ball python to another enclosure

**EL Ziggy** · 08-22-17, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedroo

You were absolutely right. I just added a 2 years old male GTP to my collection and he fits excellent in that enclosure. I moved my ball python to another enclosure

That's awesome Pedroo. I hope you'll share pics of the new addition soon.

Roman · 08-22-17, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedroo

You were absolutely right. I just added a 2 years old male GTP to my collection and he fits excellent in that enclosure. I moved my ball python to another enclosure

Nice addition, Pedroo.

I don’t want to be a pain in the neck, but your enclosure is not sufficient for an adult Morelia viridis. I suppose you are aware that you have to register your snake at the Untere Naturschutzbehoerde (our administration responsible for supervising nature conservation, they are also responsible for registering all protected animals being kept) because it is listed in Cites An. B (WA II). Depending where you live in Germany, your administration might pay you a visit after some time (here in Hessen where I live the “critical threshold” are two protected snakes, they don’t bother if you only keep one (at least for now, this might change)).

If they visit you, they will notice the size of your enclosure and will compare it to the guidelines for minimum enclosure size (“Mindestanforderungen an die Haltung von Reptilien”). For Morelia viridis the minimum enclosure size is 0,75 x 0,5 x 1,5 of total body length, so if your male is on the small side and only 150 cm long you would need an enclosure of 110 x 75 x 220 cm (length x width x height).

I know this sounds exaggerated, but I know somebody who had kept several breeding pairs of GTP in enclosures of a similar size like yours for years until he got a visit. As a result he got an official letter of reprimand, ordering him to change the settings of his enclosures to an appropriate size. He had to drastically downsize his collection in order to meet the requirements and he couldn’t provide enough large enclosures due to the size of his home. In order to provide all of his snakes with “proper” housing he would have needed another home just for them.

So in order to avoid any “official” problems provide your snake with an enclosure according to the guidelines.

Roman