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dave himself · 09-22-16, 03:25 AM

First off let me just say I'm not getting at you here I'm just stating a few facts handling one of these snakes and keeping them in your home are two complete different things, I should know I work in a shop were I have to handle them and show them to customers. Then I have to come home and take care of my own, honestly there is no comparison in the two. I also think that you should never have been sold a retic because of your age and I think the person who did so is totally irresponsible for doing it but that's just my opinion you can dislike me for it if you wish. Now I wish you all the best with your beauiful girl and I hope everything goes well with you and her

jay's reptiles · 09-22-16, 08:37 AM

I'm 16 and weight 214 and can dead lift 225

and i own a baby retic

**Andy_G** · 09-22-16, 08:45 AM

Welcome (back)to the forum Ebolling! Nice animals you have there. I started breeding snakes at a young age as well, and although you seem very mature for your age, I agree with the others when it comes to the giants. Just make sure to follow all the precautions required to keep your animals safely. It's good that you have help.

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Originally Posted by jay's reptiles

I'm 16 and weight 214 and can dead lift 225

and i own a baby retic

Be sure to have someone around to help when the time comes because however strong you think you are really won't make a difference if you're in a sticky situation with a 10+ footer in hunger mode.

SnakeyJay · 09-22-16, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jay's reptiles

I'm 16 and weight 214 and can dead lift 225

and i own a baby retic

You do know how a snakes muscle fibres interlock right.... And the fact that it means they can exert so much pressure....

You may be a big lad, but that retic as an adult will be strong enough to overpower you no problem.....

jay's reptiles · 09-22-16, 10:06 AM

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You do know how a snakes muscle fibres interlock right.... And the fact that it means they can exert so much pressure....

You may be a big lad, but that retic as an adult will be strong enough to overpower you no problem.....

Yes i do know this. I just saying while the snake is 6-7 ft i could easily be fine by myself. But i when the retic 10-15 ft i have help.

I do understand there power.

dannybgoode · 09-22-16, 10:32 AM

I was surprised the other day by sheer power of even my little 15mo boa. She hasn't done it before but decided to use my fingers as a branch and locked on with not more that the last 3-4" of her tail and the grip was extraordinary.

Yeah sure I could break it given her age and size but it gave me the first real insight into just how strong a constricting snake can be. So yes, I fully believe that even a strong, full grown adult could be in real and serious trouble if a big constrictor decided to have a go.

dave himself · 09-22-16, 12:50 PM

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I'm 16 and weight 214 and can dead lift 225

and i own a baby retic

Jay this isn't really anything to do with why we don't sell retics to 16 year olds

jay's reptiles · 09-22-16, 01:31 PM

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Jay this isn't really anything to do with why we don't sell retics to 16 year olds

What i said... had nothing to do with what you said. I telling everybody XD.

Selling to a 16 is fine. As long as they are mature. Know what they are getting their self into. I already found a place that sell frozen jumbo rat and rabbits. I also have a 9 ft enclosure in the making as we speak and i have done my research for over 8 months on this species alone.

10 and younger is a no go!

**Andy_G** · 09-22-16, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jay's reptiles

What i said... had nothing to do with what you said. I telling everybody XD.

Selling to a 16 is fine. As long as they are mature. Know what they are getting their self into. I already found a place that sell frozen jumbo rat and rabbits. I also have a 9 ft enclosure in the making as we speak and i have done my research for over 8 months on this species alone.

10 and younger is a no go!

I completely disagree...and I know that i'll derail this thread a bit but I really feel this is important to discuss.

Maturity aside, you are at the age where there are too many life events/changes on the horizon that can complicate things. To take on the responsibility of a giant is very similar to taking on the responsibility of keeping hots in my opinion , and you have to be settled down to do it fully and completely.

What happens if you attend post-secondary school and can't bring your giant snake that requires specialized care with you? Do you have someone that can safely and competently care for a giant?

What if you want to move? Not only do you then have to make sure that where you're moving will allow what you keep, but you have to stay within state lines due to all that lovely new legislation, and you also have to have someone on the other side where you're moving who you trust to be competent that can help you with daily routine and take over if you lose interest or a life change happens where you can no longer take care of the animal for whatever reason.

I used to get downplayed a lot in regards to what I knew and what I achieved in the hobby because I was your age not TOO long ago so that's not what I am doing here. Just using logic, experience, and the facts of life. If none of the above applies to you...you're one of the select few that it doesn't. Sale of hots and giants to anyone under 18...or even after the fact without lots of proof of knowledge and handling? Nope. Not something I advocate, sorry.

jay's reptiles · 09-22-16, 02:04 PM

i been living with my while i attend college so i be their everyday to take care of her.

dave himself · 09-22-16, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jay's reptiles

What i said... had nothing to do with what you said. I telling everybody XD.

Selling to a 16 is fine. As long as they are mature. Know what they are getting their self into. I already found a place that sell frozen jumbo rat and rabbits. I also have a 9 ft enclosure in the making as we speak and i have done my research for over 8 months on this species alone.

10 and younger is a no go!

Jay sounds like you've got it all sussed and you need no help and your last statement about 10 year olds speaks volumes

Ebolling · 09-22-16, 08:10 PM

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Jay sounds like you've got it all sussed and you need no help and your last statement about 10 year olds speaks volumes

Im actually quite upset about how he repsonded to the criticism. Pretty sure he has the exact attitude that leads a keeper into dangerous situations . As far as college etc goes for me i plan on staying with my parents and attending a community college ( cheaper , closer and still offers the courses I want) and I have close friends who would intervene if they thought i was over my head with my situation.

**Andy_G** · 09-22-16, 08:50 PM

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Im actually quite upset about how he repsonded to the criticism. Pretty sure he has the exact attitude that leads a keeper into dangerous situations . As far as college etc goes for me i plan on staying with my parents and attending a community college ( cheaper , closer and still offers the courses I want) and I have close friends who would intervene if they thought i was over my head with my situation.

You've got it figured out for real. Good stuff.

SnakeyJay · 09-23-16, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ebolling

Im actually quite upset about how he repsonded to the criticism. Pretty sure he has the exact attitude that leads a keeper into dangerous situations . As far as college etc goes for me i plan on staying with my parents and attending a community college ( cheaper , closer and still offers the courses I want) and I have close friends who would intervene if they thought i was over my head with my situation.

Spot on....

dave himself · 09-23-16, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ebolling

Im actually quite upset about how he repsonded to the criticism. Pretty sure he has the exact attitude that leads a keeper into dangerous situations . As far as college etc goes for me i plan on staying with my parents and attending a community college ( cheaper , closer and still offers the courses I want) and I have close friends who would intervene if they thought i was over my head with my situation.

Now my friend you have it sussed