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09-15-16, 11:11 AM
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Re: Looking for new snake
Conventional wisdom says feed in the viv. It can be stressful for the snake moving after feeding and because it's still in feeding mode it actually increases the risk of a bore.
Of course you don't stock your hand in the enclosure to feed-that would be silly and is where a nice long pair of feeding tweezers/tongues come in!
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09-15-16, 11:13 AM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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Originally Posted by dannybgoode
Conventional wisdom says feed in the viv. It can be stressful for the snake moving after feeding and because it's still in feeding mode it actually increases the risk of a bore.
Of course you don't stock your hand in the enclosure to feed-that would be silly and is where a nice long pair of feeding tweezers/tongues come in!
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I use tongues to feed
I meant that at one point they might think that everything that enters the enclosure might be food so they could get nippy.
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09-15-16, 11:18 AM
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Re: Looking for new snake
Read up on tap training. Essentially every time you open the enclosure with no intention of feeding you gently rub the snake with a snake hook.
When you open the viv to feed-no rub.
They soon associate the rubbing to not being fed and switch out of any potential thoughts of food.
I go further with my boa and will do the same with my carpet. As they are nocturnal I do not handle or open the viv other than to feed once their viv light goes off.
I only feed after lights out.
Further reinforces a routine.
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09-15-16, 03:44 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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I use tongues to feed
I meant that at one point they might think that everything that enters the enclosure might be food so they could get nippy.
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Nope, not unless the ONLY interaction you have is feeding and even then it's a stretch. 
Tap training as Danny said is useful and effective.
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09-16-16, 11:27 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
How long should I wait until I get him a new enclosure? Right now he is in a standard ten gallon tank. Can anyone recommend me some good brands for enclosures? Also, he is a bit on the thin side so should I still wait s week to feed him?
Thanks!
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09-18-16, 09:55 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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Originally Posted by Plaxito
How long should I wait until I get him a new enclosure? Right now he is in a standard ten gallon tank. Can anyone recommend me some good brands for enclosures? Also, he is a bit on the thin side so should I still wait s week to feed him?
Thanks!
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09-18-16, 10:39 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
I'd still wait to feed. Snakes can go months without food so a week will not hurt. Looking at the photos be doesn't look underweight.
Snakes are meant to be lean (not skinny but nice and lean) and sometimes we as humans think they need more food than they do and inadvertently overfeed.
As for vivs I don't know what's available on the US market so can't help there I'm afraid.
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09-19-16, 07:05 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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Where do you live? I have a local guy that seems to beat most commercial builders... Huge 8 x 2 x 2 Reptile Enclosure With Wheels!
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09-19-16, 08:19 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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I live in the bay area near San Fran.
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09-20-16, 12:20 AM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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I live in the bay area near San Fran.
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I also see pretty good deals on craigslist..
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09-20-16, 02:42 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
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I also see pretty good deals on craigslist..
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Most of the nice ones are farther than id like to drive...
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09-20-16, 02:46 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
I have about 4L x 3W x 8H of room
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09-20-16, 02:49 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
I could probably custom make a melamine enclosure.
I have access to a whole workshop.
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09-20-16, 10:34 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
Do you think I would make my own enclosure on a $300 budget?
Also, would this be safe to use as substrate for the snake? I already have a bag that I use for my carnivorous plants.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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09-20-16, 11:55 PM
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Re: Looking for new snake
Should I use melamine or plywood?
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