Cuddles the Woma Python - Page 4

REM955 · 07-03-16, 06:03 PM

So, vet visit today. Guy comes out in a refurbished ambulance. Even found Friday's fuzzy on the sonogram.
Full work up. No issues with the snake. Far more docile than he was expecting her to act. Suggests a bump in the temps and consider UV lights, but that being a minimal, not a required.
Had a good chat about oddball varieties of other snakes, the commons, and the worst things he's seen. Fortunately, I am far from that.
And wrapped it up with a few handling tips, me being beginner and all and a poop sample bag.
So yeah. No more reason to worry. At least for a week or two.

**Andy_G** · 07-03-16, 09:34 PM

Glad everything went well...I knew it would! NOW hopefully you can relax and enjoy your beautiful woma!

REM955 · 07-04-16, 01:11 PM

Indeed. However, the handling comes next, despite her being "docile for a baby Woma".
I will consider trying to handle her tomorrow or the day after. Seems to be acting normal even last night on her typical patrol, but perhaps let her have a bit more just in case.
What was the maximum for handling considered? Every other day excluding the day after feeding?

Derek Roddy · 07-05-16, 10:18 AM

I honestly wouldn't handling at all until it's feeding patterns have become consistent. Maybe after a solid 6 or 8 meals with no issues, then start to give it a go.

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**Andy_G** · 07-05-16, 01:31 PM

3-4 meals should have been given at the breeder's before the sale, and another 3-4 meals at your place while acclimating, so I am 100% with Derek on this one. Hands off for another few feedings. No sense in stressing your woma out before it's on a good feeding regimen.

REM955 · 07-05-16, 03:43 PM

Ok. I thought she handled the visit pretty well, but I am happy to abstain for a while still.
Another 4 feedings at minimum.
On a more amusing note, she has figured out which way the glass doors are pushed to be opened.

Edit: Back to the feeding before sale.
I do understand that no risk should have been taken. However, the guy did suggest live pinkies to start. How bad do you(anyone) rate this advice? My understanding is that once on, it is hard to get them off. It also sounded like this may have been the source of refusal for the past month.
For further discussion.

SerpentineDream · 07-06-16, 01:54 AM

Since she's taking frozen/thawed now, I would not go backwards and feed her live. Also I don't understand why the breeder wouldn't first offer his own womas F/T to see if they took it before feeding live. Most snakes prefer live once they've been offered it, and it sure can be hard to switch them. I have 3 newbie ball pythons that were started on live and it's been frustrating to say the least trying to convince them that F/T is yummy. For numerous reasons including safety and the humane standpoint, F/T is preferable to live. Prey that has been deep-frozen is also less likely to carry parasites. So if she's chowing down on thawed fuzzies, I would leave well enough alone. This is the same breeder that sold you a snake that had never eaten, so maybe take his advice with a grain of salt.

Do you have a way to secure the doors on your cage so she can't push them open?

REM955 · 07-06-16, 06:41 AM

Of course. Hands off still.

Yep. Came with locks. The doors are pretty heavy though, but given enough time she might be able to move them.
AP-T20 with Glass Doors and Locks

REM955 · 07-11-16, 07:13 PM

Reflecting back:
She was weighed at 41 oz/ grams. Can't recall which.
Vet said the lines/ creases I mentioned were lack of muscle mass. Happens in younger snakes. Will disappear.
And here she is breaking down a log fuzzy on the hot spot. (All I do is drop it on the log and she downs it.)

REM955 · 07-13-16, 05:05 PM

So, here's my concern:
I have looked for poop and found none.
Above is meal number 4.
How long until this becomes a concern?

REM955 · 07-15-16, 07:50 PM

Last I saw of her was her was after fourth meal on Monday in the above picture. I believe she is still in the hide pictures as I can see into all the other hides and not there. Cage has not been opened since Sunday when fed.

Could she have figured out by now that she only gets food once a week and I am only going to see her on Sunday until I can handle her? That's fine as long as she is.

Husbandry:
Temps:

Low: 80
High: 90
HotSpot: 93

Humidity:

~43%

Meals (Sundays):

2 Pinkies
2 Pinkies
1 Fuzzy
1 Fuzzy

Interaction:

None

SerpentineDream · 07-16-16, 01:01 PM

They do like to spend a lot of time hiding, but she might also be in shed. When they are getting ready to shed they retreat to their safe spot and generally don't come out until they are ready to slough their skin.

REM955 · 07-16-16, 02:53 PM

Got back from getting some stuff for a humid hide. Did not even consider it until asking the shop owner. (If needed)
It just seems like a sudden change. For the past month, every night she would come out around 8pm and increasingly earlier to come out and patrol the cage. (Light out at 8:30pm)
Still will make the offer of a fuzzy tomorrow, but I will probably rub it on the entrance and put it on top, leaving a scent trail.

REM955 · 07-18-16, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REM955

Got back from getting some stuff for a humid hide. Did not even consider it until asking the shop owner. (If needed)
It just seems like a sudden change. For the past month, every night she would come out around 8pm and increasingly earlier to come out and patrol the cage. (Light out at 8:30pm)
Still will make the offer of a fuzzy tomorrow, but I will probably rub it on the entrance and put it on top, leaving a scent trail.

No success. Found it this morning and flushed it. I will try again next Sunday.
Here's hoping it is just shedding.

REM955 · 07-21-16, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerpentineDream

They do like to spend a lot of time hiding, but she might also be in shed. When they are getting ready to shed they retreat to their safe spot and generally don't come out until they are ready to slough their skin.

I think she may be getting ready to shed now. She finally came out and is rubbing on everything face first.
She honestly doesn't look that dull to me, but I suppose once the shed comes off I will see the difference.