Help!

[Marshallarts]

I think this thread is getting a bit out of hand. Bubba is happy and healthy, and to me that's all that matters.

If a mod could close this thread is be really appreciative

[Kuamata]

We're making a valid point, not breaking forum rules. :/ It really irritates me how you contradict yourself to try and make yourself look better. That already shows you know you're wrong. Then you throw your hands up and say things are getting out of hand when someone calls you on it. Things getting a little too real for you?

Bottom line, if you can't make a vet visit happen when necessary, you should not have the animal. I may not be rich, but when I suspect something is wrong, I will gladly go hungry. I recently spent nearly $400 just to be told my macaw is healthy. You know what? I'm happy to have done that because now I have peace of mind that his liver isn't damaged and his kidneys are fine. Something you will never have with your mindset.

[Marshallarts]

Birds are different, people actually study them and can treat them successfully. Amphibians just don't get that kind of attention. Seriously, look it up. I know you are not breaking forum rules, but this thread isn't going anywhere. To me, my choices are common sense. To others maybe not. Not trying to make myself look good, or change your mind. Today I'm going to talk to somebody experienced with frogs and see if they can help me out. To me, that's much more beneficial than taking it to a vet.

[Kuamata]

No where did I say they're like birds, I was making a point that it shouldn't matter how much you have to spend to make sure your animals are healthy. If you can't afford it, plain and simple, give the animal to someone who can and knows how to care for it.

You can't really expect to come to a forum of dedicated herpers, say you can't afford vet care and don't want to take your animal to a vet anyways, backed by some horrible excuse, and not expect to get some flack for your irresponsibility.

[Zoo Nanny]

Just for the record birds are just as difficult to treat as herps also being a new field of study. Both are very susceptible to having bad reactions to drugs of all types. Just because of that doesn't mean you don't try.
Kuamata has got it, you do without when you take on the responsibility of a life.
I've known others that have gone above and beyond for their animals. When they hit hard times and couldn't afford the care they turned to rescues to help, even if it meant giving up the animal. I've known others that have sold off belongings to pay vet bills. These are people who should have animals in their lives. People who refuse to accept responsibility should be banned from owning any pet.
I would love to get another lizard right now but I can't. I know that I can't afford any more vet bills.
Up until this point people have been very kind to you and tried to help. Your frogs deserve this help, but you do not deserve these frogs.

[Marshallarts]

Talked to some people who know what they're talking about, he's fine, it's just a mating thing. I'm not going to bother responding to these threads anymore, I'm just repeating myself and so are you