looking for new snake

[snakekid6996]

Looking to get my third snake
I want to get something a little more exotic than Your average day corn snake, ball python, or boa
I was looking at children pythons or maybe a gray banded king snake, but I wanted to see if anyone on here would have any other snake ideas.
I'm looking for something up to around 150-200$price range and that would fit in a 40gallon breeder tank or smaller. However, I'm open to any ideas.a

[EL Ziggy]

There are so many amazing snakes to choose from. I hope you find the one that's perfect for you. As far as recommendations, you cant go wrong with a king, carpet, or bull snake but you might need a slightly larger enclosure for the bull or carpet. Best wishes and let us know what you decide.

[Tsubaki]

Elaphe dione?

[Batessi]

I am confused, you said something more exotic then thew in a Childrens' and a kingsnake? That's not to be taken offensively, I am just trying to understand the question.

[snakekid6996]

Originally Posted by Batessi

I am confused, you said something more exotic then thew in a Childrens' and a kingsnake? That's not to be taken offensively, I am just trying to understand the question.

By more exotic I just mean stuff that not every other person has and every petstore sells. Seems like every kid I know has a ball, corn, or boa, but I've never met anyone in person with a childrens' python or a gray banded king. I'm not dead set on those snakes they were just ideas :P. Any snakes that fit the criteria of 150-200$ price range and 40gal breeder I'd Love to here. The whole idea of this thread was just to widen my horizon. There are quite a few I can think of, but I'm sure that there are way more that I'm not thinking of or haven't herd of. I just want to make sure I see all the posibilities I could get before I decide on one.

[MDT]

to be fair, children's pythons and grey banded kings are not that common comparatively speaking...

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by MDT

to be fair, children's pythons and grey banded kings are not that common comparatively speaking...

I agree. These snakes are relatively rare in terms of the average collection.

I think any anteresia(childrens, spotted, pygmy...etc) would make a nice pet.

Do you have to use glass tanks? They aren't exactly the best thing to use for snakes. It would be much easier to maintain conditions if you bought or built an actual snake enclosure. And if you could, I would say even a green tree python would make a nice pet as well. It's just a snake you would not be able to handle as often.

[snakekid6996]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

I agree. These snakes are relatively rare in terms of the average collection.

I think any anteresia(childrens, spotted, pygmy...etc) would make a nice pet.

Do you have to use glass tanks? They aren't exactly the best thing to use for snakes. It would be much easier to maintain conditions if you bought or built an actual snake enclosure. And if you could, I would say even a green tree python would make a nice pet as well. It's just a snake you would not be able to handle as often.

All I have is some aquariums (a few 10 gallons, 15 gallon tall, and 40gallon breeder) and one woden snake enclosure that I would guess is the size of a 20gallon, but a bit deeper. However, it is not the most pleasing to look at. I could possibly do a rub set up. I've been wanting to get a gtp for years, but I've herd they're pretty hard to keep and the husbandry can be a bit of a challenge considoring the strict humidity and heat requirments and the fact that they're aboreal. I'm not sure if I'd be ready for one yet with my current situation, but I'd Love to get one. They're deffinitly on my list to get at somepoint.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by snakekid6996

All I have is some aquariums (a few 10 gallons, 15 gallon tall, and 40gallon breeder) and one woden snake enclosure that I would guess is the size of a 20gallon, but a bit deeper. However, it is not the most pleasing to look at. I could possibly do a rub set up. I've been wanting to get a gtp for years, but I've herd they're pretty hard to keep and the husbandry can be a bit of a challenge considoring the strict humidity and heat requirments and the fact that they're aboreal. I'm not sure if I'd be ready for one yet with my current situation, but I'd Love to get one. They're deffinitly on my list to get at somepoint.

If you can opt to buy or build a bigger one later on I would say a gtp is a good choice.

They aren't exactly harder to keep than other species, and don't require as high humidity as other snakes such as brb's and such. Just keep them in a low ventilation enclosure, a large water bowl and keep them in the high 70's to mid 80's. You don't need to mist them everyday and they do fine with humidity around 60%.

A green tree python setup is actually very easy because of the fact that they are arboreal. Here is one I pulled off the internet. The snake being shown is actually an ETB, but it works well for GTP's as well

[snakekid6996]

Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

If you can opt to buy or build a bigger one later on I would say a gtp is a good choice.

They aren't exactly harder to keep than other species, and don't require as high humidity as other snakes such as brb's and such. Just keep them in a low ventilation enclosure, a large water bowl and keep them in the high 70's to mid 80's. You don't need to mist them everyday and they do fine with humidity around 60%.

A green tree python setup is actually very easy because of the fact that they are arboreal. Here is one I pulled off the internet. The snake being shown is actually an ETB, but it works well for GTP's as well

part of the issue is how tight on money I am on money atm. I'm selling my veiled and her set up and that's the money I will be using towards a new snake. I'll also need to buy a thermostat and heat pad. I could maybe build a cheap rub though. How often would You recomend misting the enclosure? Also, how would You recomend heating a arboreal enclosure?

[Batessi]

Originally Posted by snakekid6996

part of the issue is how tight on money I am on money atm. I'm selling my veiled and her set up and that's the money I will be using towards a new snake. I'll also need to buy a thermostat and heat pad. I could maybe build a cheap rub though. How often would You recomend misting the enclosure? Also, how would You recomend heating a arboreal enclosure?

I use a heated room, but fellow hobbyists use Pro Products radiant heat panels. Morelia viridis is definitely a great species, I love all mine. They are not very costly to set up correctly, in fact all my cages just contain some plants, bedding, PVC pipe, and lighting.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by snakekid6996

part of the issue is how tight on money I am on money atm. I'm selling my veiled and her set up and that's the money I will be using towards a new snake. I'll also need to buy a thermostat and heat pad. I could maybe build a cheap rub though. How often would You recomend misting the enclosure? Also, how would You recomend heating a arboreal enclosure?

I would always recommend a radiant heat panel as a heating source over a heat lamp for arboreal snakes. These put out gentle heat, last forever, and are easy to install inside an enclosure without the need for gaurds(Because they just don't get that hot).

I'd mist my green tree python enclosures once every few days just so they could drink the water droplets off their body. I never misted for the purpose of raising humidity. The low ventilation of a proper snake cage and large water bowl did all the work for me. High temperatures(above mid 80'sF) will dehydrate these snakes quicker, which is why people used to need to keep the humidity so high. My chondros would only spend time under the heat source after a meal. They were in the cooler side of their enclosures most of the time. When I read their body temps with a heat gun it would usually be around 80-82F.

[snakekid6996]

I just don't think I can do all of this with my budget atm.
I have tanks and decor but none for an arboreal species
I would need an entirely new set up, a 50-100$ heat panel, and the snake by itself is 350$+.
I was planning on only spending around 100-200$ on this project.
Unfortunately I just don't think I can afford this guy right now :/

[Mikoh4792]

Hm... off the top of my head some rare snakes i can think of are kunisir island ratsnakes, solomon ground/solomon tree boas(they are different snakes), anteresia(spotteds, childreni..etc), dwarf boas(cay caulker island, crawl cay, tarahumara mountain...etc).

[snakekid6996]

I was thinking a hog island might be nice