Your favorite Snake Racks - Page 2

Hannibalcanibal · 08-25-13, 01:21 PM

I'm building a rack, and for me it is just so that it takes up less space than a thousand enclosures littering the reptile room

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Mikoh4792 · 08-25-13, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannibalcanibal

I'm building a rack, and for me it is just so that it takes up less space than a thousand enclosures littering the reptile room

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You could still get an enclosure similar in size to the tubs with front viewing glass/acrylic.

For example my ball pythons are in tubs that are about 2ft x 1.5ft. I just ordered some 2x2x1's with hinged doors. So they are essentially the same sizes except with the actual enclosures I can observe my snakes/have more access.

Although for ball pythons I can't really complain about tubs. I don't see them do much anyways.

ErikBush97 · 08-25-13, 04:31 PM

Actually... I don't think racks are 'cool'. I'm just limited on space, and I plan on breeding my Boas, and I've been looking into JCP's and CCP's (just as pets. Not breeders).

ErikBush97 · 08-25-13, 04:34 PM

Also, snakes are solitary animals. If anything, display enclosures are greedy. It sacrifices their privacy more than a rack.

Mikoh4792 · 08-25-13, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ErikBush97

Also, snakes are solitary animals. If anything, display enclosures are greedy. It sacrifices their privacy more than a rack.

I wouldn't go that far. It depends on the snake. An enclosure with all sides solid except one, I wouldn't call that sacrificing privacy.

I know it's not in the wild, but in the wild where they come from they are not surrounded by solid or translucent walls. If you provide hides they have access to as much privacy as they need.

Plus I have snakes that don't care for privacy such as my russian rat who prefers to relax outside his hides during the day and doesn't mind my presence. Very rarely will he choose to hide.

ErikBush97 · 08-25-13, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

I wouldn't go that far. It depends on the snake. An enclosure with all sides solid except one, I wouldn't call that sacrificing privacy.

I know it's not in the wild, but in the wild where they come from they are not surrounded by solid or translucent walls. If you provide hides they have access to as much privacy as they need.

Plus I have snakes that don't care for privacy such as my russian rat who prefers to relax outside his hides during the day and doesn't mind my presence. Very rarely will he choose to hide.

Good point. Either way... Which is going to be cheaper? A four tier rack or a four tier display enclosure? I don't care which I get. I just need one or the other (whatever's cheapest)

Mikoh4792 · 08-25-13, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ErikBush97

Good point. Either way... Which is going to be cheaper? A four tier rack or a four tier display enclosure? I don't care which I get. I just need one or the other (whatever's cheapest)

I am not trying to be rude but this is where you go wrong. Why would you choose one over the other in terms of price?

You also said you were planning on getting more animals. Why not just use the money on your current animals instead of buying the cheapest options for several more?

ErikBush97 · 08-25-13, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikoh4792

I am not trying to be rude but this is where you go wrong. Why would you choose one over the other in terms of price?

I work at a Fast Food restaurant. It's already going to take like.. Three whole checks for a rack. And everyone jumps in raving about display cases. Both are used by many, and work perfectly, correct? So at this point, price is the only convenient factor.

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You also said you were planning on getting more animals.

no.... I said I was looking into JCP's and CCP's. I took in two BCI's in like one week. I definitely won't be getting more snakes until I've had these ones for awhile.

ErikBush97 · 08-26-13, 02:03 AM

I think I'm going with four Boaphile 421D's.

marvelfreak · 08-26-13, 05:04 AM

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I could put some sort of support beams under the perches, right? That might help support a full grown BCI. And there are these Christmas tree storage tubs I plan on buying that are like 6' x 3' x 1'-2'. So they would provide a lot of space to make a perch. I was thinking I could make a few pillar type things under the perch, out of something strong, like PVC.

I have 12 they are 4' x2' x16" the inside measures 4'x20"x 14". They work great for my Carpets, Bloods, and BRB plus a few of my other snakes. I have perches in them no problem.

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I think I'm going with four Boaphile 421D's.

I actually have four of these to. I bought them used. Dang now that i thing about these are over 10 years old and still work great. Mine have lights in them but i never turn them on. Two of mine have the removable sides for joining together and making a big 8 footer. The other two i cut a hole in the sides and screwed them together to make me another 8 footer for my anaconda.

This is how they looked when i use to have them stacked.

And now that i have them join together as 8 foot cages.

ErikBush97 · 08-26-13, 09:38 AM

Nice, man. So is there any difference between the 421D, and the Christmas Box... performance wise? Because the Christmas boxes are $92, and the 421D's are $250 each brand new.

B_Aller · 08-26-13, 09:50 AM

Very interesting discussion, thanks.
So obviously price is a major factor for many using rack systems. Is this because the goal of keepers here is more to have lots of animals vs. observing behavior or sharing space/connecting with the animals?
What is the breaking point for needing a rack for you guys? i.e how many animals did you get to to start thinking "I need a rack"
Marvel Freak- do you notice behavioral differences in the animals you keep in set ups that require top opening? Meaning when you pop open an enclosure and are looming over the animals does it affect behavior in your opinion? Vs say a front opening "display" style set up.
Thanks for the discussion guys!
Best.

exwizard · 08-26-13, 10:04 AM

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Animal Plastics use to have a nice 1996 sterilite rack that housed 74 quart tubs that were perfect for bci's. idk if they still make it tho

I have one of these and I just bought it last year so it is still available.

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I was thinking about putting perches in their tubs, and making a custom rack, but Idk. I'm not great with building things..

You could also get a Arboreal from AP. they have those available as well.

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Why racks? Are you trying to become a volume breeder? What is the advantage of a rack system for you? Have you considered other housing alternatives?
Not trying to be rude or start an argument, really interested in why a rack system would even be a consideration for hobbyists, as I just flat out don't get it.
Thanks.

I use racks myself for 2 reasons. I have a large collection of snakes and limited space plus the tubs hooks humidity very well.

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Originally Posted by B_Aller

Very interesting discussion, thanks.
So obviously price is a major factor for many using rack systems. Is this because the goal of keepers here is more to have lots of animals vs. observing behavior or sharing space/connecting with the animals?
What is the breaking point for needing a rack for you guys? i.e how many animals did you get to to start thinking "I need a rack"
Marvel Freak- do you notice behavioral differences in the animals you keep in set ups that require top opening? Meaning when you pop open an enclosure and are looming over the animals does it affect behavior in your opinion? Vs say a front opening "display" style set up.
Thanks for the discussion guys!
Best.

Price isn't the only factor. I've also seen certain snakes' cage aggression disappear when in racks. Like I said, space is an issue. I rent a room in another guy's house and this room doubles as my bedroom/snake room and with all 37 snakes in my room, having racks is critical for me.

KORBIN5895 · 08-26-13, 10:08 AM

I personally don't buy into racks or tubs. I have all of my snakes in either terrariums, custom built wooden enclosures or converted display cases. I personally love looking into my snake room and seeing nice displays with snakes visible. I only use totes for very small snakes.

Oh, I currently own fourteen snakes: six boas, two womas, two royals and four garters.

exwizard · 08-26-13, 10:16 AM

I understand that and don't get me wrong a few of my snakes are in more visible setup, e.g. Medusa, my 8' 2yr. old Burm is in a AP T25 terrestrial cage, Black Betty my 9' Dums is in a 6' Neodesha and Pindari my Scrub is in a Neodesha Arboreal. These suit the individual snakes' needs well but because of space issues, racks are much more efficient when it comes to having everybody in my room.