Anyone know about anacondas?

[BagnaraSnakes16]

So back to the topic of the thread. If anyone knows any info on raising green or yellow anacondas or would recommend them to an enthusiast that wants a challenge...lol also why the heak would they ban yellow condas and not green in Florida since greens are much larger

[marvelfreak]

Originally Posted by Herpophiliac972

Is everyone sure this is even real? I am not a hundred percent convinced. This snake looks huge, maybe a little too huge. I am totally open to the possibility of it being real, but I am a little skeptical.

It's real but if you look close the are zoomed way in. It not as big as it looks but it is still and good 12 plus foot snake. Olives and Scrubs are both long but slender which can make them appear even longer than say a Burm the same length.

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by BagnaraSnakes16

So back to the topic of the thread. If anyone knows any info on raising green or yellow anacondas or would recommend them to an enthusiast that wants a challenge...lol also why the heak would they ban yellow condas and not green in Florida since greens are much larger

Politics and stupidity.
Matt Martin and Ben Rennick are both breeding greens. Ben has T+ albinos and IIRC he either already has or is about to produce CBB T+ albinos. His adult male is a total **** though, very sketchy animal. Greens can be a bit of a pain to keep in captivity, they love to poop and bite but some can be wonderful to work with. We're only in the early stages of Anaconda keeping and if we can keep the government off our backs for a while I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see well mannered adults just like we did with retics that had a very similar reputation in the early years.

The snake in the video is a very big olive python if I'm not mistaken. The belly coloration is a good indicator as well as the complete lack of pattern and body build.

[marvelfreak]

Originally Posted by BagnaraSnakes16

So back to the topic of the thread. If anyone knows any info on raising green or yellow anacondas or would recommend them to an enthusiast that wants a challenge...lol also why the heak would they ban yellow condas and not green in Florida since greens are much larger

No i won't recommend them to anyone. The main reason once the cool factor wears off and they realize they have a aggressive snake that don't like to be messed with it's too late. Now they don't want it so it goes bye bye. Besides me i only can think of one other person on this site that has gotten one and kept it over a year. These are not Burmese you can take them out when ever you want and show them off. Some snake are meant to be for show not showing off and letting everyone under the sun handle them. Which is what most people like to do with big constrictors.

Most of them tend to be bitey and unpredictable. They are like a big version of a Blood python. I can't count how many times i have seen people showing off their new anaconda just to get rid of it in under a year because they realized they got in over their head. I forever see them for sale or trade on facebook.

[Concept9]

Originally Posted by BagnaraSnakes16

So back to the topic of the thread. If anyone knows any info on raising green or yellow anacondas or would recommend them to an enthusiast that wants a challenge...lol also why the heak would they ban yellow condas and not green in Florida since greens are much larger

Do not get this animal. It will EAT YOU.

A friend of mine had one about 18 years ago, my friend is still missing.

[smy_749]

That vid looks like an olive or a huge papuan to me

[Pirarucu]

Agreed, the snake in that video is not an anaconda...

I will say this:
They are certainly not for everyone, you need to be committed and have money to provide a very large cage. That being said, I think that their usual size is very exaggerated, and the only ones that get really huge are the overfed ones. In addition, they do not get huge very fast like a large species of python will, so in that regard I would consider them to be better captives.
At Moody Gardens, the biggest of the three is twenty-eight years old, and is around 14-16 feet, depending on whose estimate you're going by. The smaller two are a few years old and still not over seven feet. The massive anacondas you see are all a lot fatter than they really ought to be, and have been fed far too much.


Their temperament is also exaggerated very often, and is not always well deserved, especially with captive bred individuals. That stereotype is often based on wild caught and young animals, to which I can only ask what else is to be expected? Larger anacondas, handled properly, are not very bad, and even juveniles are not if handled properly. I have handled several young "mean" anacondas, and have not been bitten yet. Slow, calm movements and pick them up from beneath. Don't be a predator, and they won't act like prey.

Again, they are most definitely not for everyone, but if you have the resources and knowledge to keep one, then they can be a better choice than some other large constrictors.

[formica]

just a point - the really large ones I've seen where wild caught adults - so dont think really true to say that really large ones are overfed - and they where certainly longer than 14ft - quick scan of google images will clear that point up! they can grow HUGE

[marvelfreak]

I think a lot of owners underfeed them to try and keep them on the smaller side. Which in turn is why they are aggressive because they are always hungry. Which is why most people don't keep them for very long because they don't want a aggressive snake.

[Pirarucu]

Originally Posted by formica

just a point - the really large ones I've seen where wild caught adults - so dont think really true to say that really large ones are overfed - and they where certainly longer than 14ft - quick scan of google images will clear that point up! they can grow HUGE

Oh I certainly am not saying that they cannot grow that big, just that it is not as common as most people seem to think. A twenty foot snake is not a common thing. Can they grow that big? Yes. Do they do it often? No.
It's worth noting that Google is not going to be the best benchmark to set, as especially large snakes will come up more often. Despite that, searching "Green Anaconda" on Google yields mainly pictures of snakes that appear to be 10-15 feet or smaller. A fifteen foot snake is a very large and powerful animal, but it still isn't twenty feet long.

As far as wild-caught adults being big: For starters, if a snake is in an area with an abundance of prey year round (For instance, the Amazon) then of course some individuals may get quite large. However, these animals are again the exceptional ones, not the norm. A twenty foot snake is still a very rare thing. Go out and try to find one, tell me how long it takes..

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Pirarucu

Oh I certainly am not saying that they cannot grow that big, just that it is not as common as most people seem to think. A twenty foot snake is not a common thing. Can they grow that big? Yes. Do they do it often? No.
It's worth noting that Google is not going to be the best benchmark to set, as especially large snakes will come up more often. Despite that, searching "Green Anaconda" on Google yields mainly pictures of snakes that appear to be 10-15 feet or smaller. A fifteen foot snake is a very large and powerful animal, but it still isn't twenty feet long.

As far as wild-caught adults being big: For starters, if a snake is in an area with an abundance of prey year round (For instance, the Amazon) then of course some individuals may get quite large. However, these animals are again the exceptional ones, not the norm. A twenty foot snake is still a very rare thing. Go out and try to find one, tell me how long it takes..

I agree that the length you're quoting to be correct.

The size though would be more round. Greens are on record as the largest snakes found in the wild. They tend to be more robust. Lots of "wild caughts" on discovery shows over the years.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by millertime89

Politics and stupidity.
Matt Martin and Ben Rennick are both breeding greens. Ben has T+ albinos and IIRC he either already has or is about to produce CBB T+ albinos. His adult male is a total **** though, very sketchy animal. Greens can be a bit of a pain to keep in captivity, they love to poop and bite but some can be wonderful to work with. We're only in the early stages of Anaconda keeping and if we can keep the government off our backs for a while I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see well mannered adults just like we did with retics that had a very similar reputation in the early years.

The snake in the video is a very big olive python if I'm not mistaken. The belly coloration is a good indicator as well as the complete lack of pattern and body build.

I'm not posting to pick on you like I normally do but you're wrong in that there's a lack of a pattern in the video.

If you pause throughout it you can see very faded blotches. I originally thought african rock python but there is a noticeable lack of that pattern. It could be too muddy/dirty to tell along with the sun making the glare off the scales.

The blotches to me do say green anaconda. Does anyone know the location the video was shot in considering that would do most wonders to exclude any species that aren't native to it.

EDIT: After pausing the video at the 17 second mark before the strike denotes a head shape that isn't normal for green anacondas from what I've seen. It does almost look like a retic but it's a bad shot.

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I'm not posting to pick on you like I normally do but you're wrong in that there's a lack of a pattern in the video.

If you pause throughout it you can see very faded blotches. I originally thought african rock python but there is a noticeable lack of that pattern. It could be too muddy/dirty to tell along with the sun making the glare off the scales.

The blotches to me do say green anaconda. Does anyone know the location the video was shot in considering that would do most wonders to exclude any species that aren't native to it.

EDIT: After pausing the video at the 17 second mark before the strike denotes a head shape that isn't normal for green anacondas from what I've seen. It does almost look like a retic but it's a bad shot.

I'm on my netbook, not the best screen for details, especially in crappy youtube videos.

[smy_749]

Originally Posted by millertime89

I'm on my netbook, not the best screen for details, especially in crappy youtube videos.

I did rewatch it after Aaron said there were blotches. I could make out a few, but its hard to tell still. The head really looks like an olive or papuan to me though..And if it was covered in mud would it still show that iridescence?

[moshirimon]

That's definitely not a green conda. Looks like an olive python. Look at the sides, narrow tail, girth to length ratio.