The yellow rat snake that may enjoy some human contact.

[VaranidLover]

Originally Posted by Lankyrob

Personally i hate tubs, would never use them, i want to give me animals space and as much space as practically efficient for teh house i live in.

BUT i do understand why others use tubs and i wouldn't berate them for doing so, both ideas work, neither is cruel or "bad". Personal preference is just that

My leo is in a 4x2x1 tub. Is it still small because it's a tub? my female BCI is in a 4x2x1 pvc since she was 2 feet, and is 6 foot now. Perfectly adequate space, but, probably still too small just because it's a tub?

Please.. rethink things before you say things like that. I appreciate the disclaimer to try to avoid any grief but.. here it is: I give more space to my animals using tubs than 99% of people do using tanks. Why? it's cheaper to do so and it works BETTER for the animal.

You made it seem like people using tubs are doing things inhumanely and that isn't right. Get your facts straight, as should the OP who knows nothing about basic reptilian anatomy.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by SkyesRingo

I suppose my mind had wandered to how people have a whole bunch of snake just sitting in tubs on a rack. I'm still new to all this so my opinions from before owning a snake still rule my brian -.°
I used to believe that way of keeping snake was odd, and being able to see the snake and interact with it was always better.
I know I was wrong in my previous post, pardon me, however I was a little titched off so my anger slipped thru.
But I will stick with the parts which aren't hostile.

I know you mean well, and that this opinion of yours is past you, but I just need to point the bolded ^ part out. Snakes would probably feel more secure if you didn't "see" them. Unless you have kept one for years and have one that is tolerant of your presence, anything alive and bigger than them is a potential predator. They would rather not be seen. I know this is not the wild, but in the wild where they(individual snakes) come from, they do not interact with humans on a regular basis and they get along just fine by themselves. Why would they need interaction in a captive environment?

[Lankyrob]

Originally Posted by VaranidLover

My leo is in a 4x2x1 tub. Is it still small because it's a tub? my female BCI is in a 4x2x1 pvc since she was 2 feet, and is 6 foot now. Perfectly adequate space, but, probably still too small just because it's a tub?

Please.. rethink things before you say things like that. I appreciate the disclaimer to try to avoid any grief but.. here it is: I give more space to my animals using tubs than 99% of people do using tanks. Why? it's cheaper to do so and it works BETTER for the animal.

You made it seem like people using tubs are doing things inhumanely and that isn't right. Get your facts straight, as should the OP who knows nothing about basic reptilian anatomy.

If i made it seem like tubs are inhumane then that was not the intention at all and i thought by saying it personal preference and that neither is "bad" clarified that - obviously not

[smy_749]

Originally Posted by VaranidLover

My leo is in a 4x2x1 tub. Is it still small because it's a tub? my female BCI is in a 4x2x1 pvc since she was 2 feet, and is 6 foot now. Perfectly adequate space, but, probably still too small just because it's a tub?

Please.. rethink things before you say things like that. I appreciate the disclaimer to try to avoid any grief but.. here it is: I give more space to my animals using tubs than 99% of people do using tanks. Why? it's cheaper to do so and it works BETTER for the animal.

You made it seem like people using tubs are doing things inhumanely and that isn't right. Get your facts straight, as should the OP who knows nothing about basic reptilian anatomy.

Umm???

Originally Posted by Lankyrob

Personally i hate tubs, would never use them, i want to give me animals space and as much space as practically efficient for teh house i live in.

BUT i do understand why others use tubs and i wouldn't berate them for doing so, both ideas work, neither is cruel or "bad". Personal preference is just that

Did you miss that part?

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by VaranidLover

My leo is in a 4x2x1 tub. Is it still small because it's a tub? my female BCI is in a 4x2x1 pvc since she was 2 feet, and is 6 foot now. Perfectly adequate space, but, probably still too small just because it's a tub?

Please.. rethink things before you say things like that. I appreciate the disclaimer to try to avoid any grief but.. here it is: I give more space to my animals using tubs than 99% of people do using tanks. Why? it's cheaper to do so and it works BETTER for the animal.

You made it seem like people using tubs are doing things inhumanely and that isn't right. Get your facts straight, as should the OP who knows nothing about basic reptilian anatomy.

Wow! I'm impressed. Can I get you a cookie?

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

Wow! I'm impressed. Can I get you a cookie?

I want one

[bcr229]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

I want one

Make mine chocolate chip, home made, still warm from the oven, with a tall glass of milk on the side.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by bcr229

Make mine chocolate chip, home made, still warm from the oven, with a tall glass of milk on the side.

I'll take a mallomar



This thread is now about cookies

[smy_749]

That looks gross and like it would give you cancer. I like real homemade cookies.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by smy_749

That looks gross and like it would give you cancer. I like real homemade cookies.

LOL what makes it look gross? It's just chocolate, marshmallow and graham crackers. It's like smores.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

LOL what makes it look gross? It's just chocolate, marshmallow and graham crackers. It's like smores.

Plus one!!!

[DOBERMAN]

Was watching "Zoo Diaries" yesterday and they had a segment on the Tortoises at the Toronto Zoo. Their primary keeper who works with them every day (and I think it was like 4 years or something) specifically said, and I quote, "they seek out human contact and affection" and indeed they filmed a tortoise going up to her and she stroking its neck. For all you naysayers in this thread, I would think that her somewhat qualified experience should be taken into consideration.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by DOBERMAN

Was watching "Zoo Diaries" yesterday and they had a segment on the Tortoises at the Toronto Zoo. Their primary keeper who works with them every day (and I think it was like 4 years or something) specifically said, and I quote, "they seek out human contact and affection" and indeed they filmed a tortoise going up to her and she stroking its neck. For all you naysayers in this thread, I would think that her somewhat qualified experience should be taken into consideration.

Tortoises are not snakes. Just because a tortoise goes up to her and she strokes it's neck does not prove it feels affection towards her.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by DOBERMAN

Was watching "Zoo Diaries" yesterday and they had a segment on the Tortoises at the Toronto Zoo. Their primary keeper who works with them every day (and I think it was like 4 years or something) specifically said, and I quote, "they seek out human contact and affection" and indeed they filmed a tortoise going up to her and she stroking its neck. For all you naysayers in this thread, I would think that her somewhat qualified experience should be taken into consideration.

I don't trust anything from a zoo keeper. Especially with reptiles. I can run circles around most of them.

Besides, my snake randomly slithers to the open side of the tub. I stroke it's back and don't get bit. I'm sure that quantifies everything anyone has ever said about them seeking affection. It's now scientific FACT. BOOM! I just blew everyone's mind. Where's my nobel prize?

[MDT]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I don't trust anything from a zoo keeper. Especially with reptiles. I can run circles around most of them.

Besides, my snake randomly slithers to the open side of the tub. I stroke it's back and don't get bit. I'm sure that quantifies everything anyone has ever said about them seeking affection. It's now scientific FACT. BOOM! I just blew everyone's mind. Where's my nobel prize?

I think Obama has it