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04-22-13, 04:00 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
Now, could a baby Savannah live in a sealed 40 breeder until it reaches about 16" or so? I'm thinking I MIGHT go the Savannah route, that's if I even get a lizard, but I'd have to see if I would be able to properly care for it.
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04-22-13, 04:05 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
I wouldn't house it in there once it hit a foot long, even that would be a stretch..
My advice would simply be to build the adult enclosure before even getting the monitor.
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04-22-13, 04:12 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
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I wouldn't house it in there once it hit a foot long, even that would be a stretch..
My advice would simply be to build the adult enclosure before even getting the monitor.
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That's probably a good idea. I just feel like I should make it clear that I'm going to think VERY extensively before I make that kind of commitment. That is, if I'm realistically able to do so.
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04-22-13, 06:00 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
No way in hell you can get a hotspot at 160f and till have a temp gradient in a 40...
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04-22-13, 06:04 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
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No way in hell you can get a hotspot at 160f and till have a temp gradient in a 40...
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Put the cool end near the air conditioner, or inside a refrigerator.
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04-22-13, 06:04 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
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No way in hell you can get a hotspot at 160f and till have a temp gradient in a 40...
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That answers my question. Should I just put the baby in its adult enclosure from the start, then? Or would it be a good idea for me to build, say, a 4 x 2' and house the monitor in there until it's big enough to move into the adult-size enclosure?
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04-22-13, 06:06 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
start it in an adult enclosure, unless you plan to track its feeding, but I wouldn't bother.
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04-22-13, 06:14 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
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No way in hell you can get a hotspot at 160f and till have a temp gradient in a 40...
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I have achieved a basking area of 200F while leaving the cool side of the cage in the seventies or the low eighties. You would be surprised how easy it is. Just raise the basking area to the lights until you get the temp you're after..
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04-22-13, 06:15 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
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That answers my question. Should I just put the baby in its adult enclosure from the start, then? Or would it be a good idea for me to build, say, a 4 x 2' and house the monitor in there until it's big enough to move into the adult-size enclosure?
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Start in an adult enclosure. Contrary to popular belief, there is no way in which a large cage will be detrimental to a small or young animal if it is set up properly.
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04-22-13, 07:14 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
I'm thinking I'll just build the top and then cut the bottom so I can use a stock tank to hold the dirt. What size stock tank would be good for holding the dirt the monitor will need?
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04-22-13, 07:26 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
As big as the bottom of the tank. It should be two feet deep for a sav. Unfortunately they don't make 8x4 troughs, just 8x3 so far as I've seen. Just make the top four feet wide and put a lip on it. Or go bigger if you can. You could make it 8x8 or 10x10, they make circular troughs that big.
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04-22-13, 07:38 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
Holy crap, I just thought of something. What about nighttime heating? Would I have to install infrared bulbs for nighttime, or would the cage be insulated enough to last the Savs through the night, or what exactly?
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04-22-13, 07:43 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
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Originally Posted by Pirarucu
As big as the bottom of the tank. It should be two feet deep for a sav. Unfortunately they don't make 8x4 troughs, just 8x3 so far as I've seen. Just make the top four feet wide and put a lip on it. Or go bigger if you can. You could make it 8x8 or 10x10, they make circular troughs that big.
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They make 8 x 2's. You can just put 2 side by side, but you would have an akward metal barrier in the middle. And it depends on where you live and how cold your night time house temps are, but most people use CME's or something for night time typically.
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04-22-13, 07:47 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
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Holy crap, I just thought of something. What about nighttime heating? Would I have to install infrared bulbs for nighttime, or would the cage be insulated enough to last the Savs through the night, or what exactly?
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If it's insulated it should hold heat through the night. Many keepers simply leave the heat lamps on 24/7 with no ill effects and with a number of benefits, particularly if keeping more than one monitor in the same cage.
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04-22-13, 09:08 PM
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Re: Another stupid housing question
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Holy crap, I just thought of something. What about nighttime heating? Would I have to install infrared bulbs for nighttime, or would the cage be insulated enough to last the Savs through the night, or what exactly?
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my tank usually holds head through the night if i turn everything off but i have a heat emitter i use at night when i turn off the lights.
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