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Old 04-17-13, 08:07 AM   #91
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What part of i spoke to vet already are you all not getting besides some one on here as agreed to help me get their to their vet they say that they are very good. so as long as the timing is correct she should be going to see someone this weekend. problem with my job is i literally cant get way from work monday through friday.
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tube feeding is what i would consider a soft food diet,i use high protien cat/dog food (it can be bought from a vet) watered down into a paste,so that it moves freely through the syringe and tube,attatched to the syringe is a baby infant feeding tube,cut to the appropriatte size,its the exact same tube used on human babys,when they require a tube down their nose into the stomach,for feeding when they're ill ...you buy the tube from your vet,then cut the tube so it goes far enough back the snakes throat,so the food goes down into the stomach and not back out the mouth

re amount of cat/dog food per feed
i give the samer weight as the prey the snake should be eating...

if it should be taking a 50gram prey item...i wiegh out 50 grams of cat/dog food,then water it down,load it into a syringe and tube,then insert the tube far enough down the snakes throat,so the food does not come back out the mouth

tube feeding should be done when a snakes too weak or run down to eat for itself

re force feeding
force feeding should be a LAST option,as it causes a lot of stress to the snake

if your having to force feed a snake everytime,then their something way off with the husbandry or the snake has health issues

cheers shaun
when i got her they said she hadnt eaten on her own. what they told me was that she young and that she would grow out of it but she never did and you are most likely right it probably has been husbandry issues when i put a fuzzie in last night she was looking at it but then it fell asleep so she turned away from it and didnt glance at it again.
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What part of i spoke to vet already are you all not getting besides some one on here as agreed to help me get their to their vet they say that they are very good. so as long as the timing is correct she should be going to see someone this weekend. problem with my job is i literally cant get way from work monday through friday.
So what is it? You don't have the money or you don't think it's necessary? Or is it you can't get away from work?

Like I said it's obviously not a priority for you and that's fine. Just stop making the poor things suffer because of your lack of caring.
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Honestly, the best thing for your snake at the moment is to give it to someone who cares and who will take it to the vet immediately. UrbanLegend already offered. The snake will be in great hands with her. I can't stand the thought of it dying as a result of you being too stubborn... -_-
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So what is it? You don't have the money or you don't think it's necessary? Or is it you can't get away from work?

Like I said it's obviously not a priority for you and that's fine. Just stop making the poor things suffer because of your lack of caring.
Big thing is work when you work the job i do you dont just take a day off when you feel like it you have to ask weeks in advanced to get a day off as long as it is a viable excuse.
I do care about my snake if i didnt i wouldnt have asked for help.
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I have a question in regards to feeding I recently read that some ball pythons and royal pythons will never eat on their own and I have only gotten Jennifer to eat on her own twice and that was in one day. I have always had to force feed. Have any of you ever had a snake that you had to force feed every time and if so. Were you able to force feed a small mouse or a rat fuzzie to them. because she needs to eat i got her to eat two mice fuzzies last week but those are small and easier to get into her. I am not sure how force feeding a small mouse will work if you guys dont know then i will just talk to that rep vet again and see what he suggests other then a soft food diet because there are problems that can arise with soft food diets with her already weak i dont need her to get any of the stomach problems that they say can happen if they are given soft food diets.
You're such a joke of a keeper.

I have kept far more ball pythons than most people posting in this thread and I have NEVER had a snake need to be force fed for life. Wherever you read this is not somewhere you want to get information. It means they suck at keeping such a simple animal alive.

The problem with soft food diets is that snakes were NEVER meant to have them that's why people encounter problems. IT'S NOT NEEDED! This vet is dumb. Find a new one.
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Would you euthinize any other animal that had malnuritment problems and dyhydration issues?
How did you diagnose this? With your vast knowledge of ball pythons?

How do you know the wound is healing? How do you know it's not part of a bigger underlying problem?

Speak to a real vet. This guy is dumb.

You don't just resort to force feeding. I had a baby ball python hatch out of an egg and she took 4 months to take her first meal. Yeah. She's fine and never once did I resort to force feeding. Offered appropriate sized meal (mouse hopper) every 5 days.
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How did you diagnose this? With your vast knowledge of ball pythons?

How do you know the wound is healing? How do you know it's not part of a bigger underlying problem?

Speak to a real vet. This guy is dumb.

You don't just resort to force feeding. I had a baby ball python hatch out of an egg and she took 4 months to take her first meal. Yeah. She's fine and never once did I resort to force feeding. Offered appropriate sized meal (mouse hopper) every 5 days.
I am with aaron on this; if this is the information you got from your vet you should find a new one. Also, If you just recently force fed two mice to your snake last week, you should not have a "few" live mice in there now. I would suggest getting your temps right, then putting the snake in a dark secluded place and do not touch it until its going to the vet, which should be as soon as possible.
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I think Carissa is going to try to get Jennifer to me. I have a reptile vet who's one of the best in the country. He's AMAZING with animals; he once repaired a queen bee's wings so the hive would survive. If this works out, I will do all that I can to help this little ball python. If she can be saved, my vet will know how to help me do it. I'll keep everyone posted on how things go.
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That's the best post yet I really hope Carissa gets her to you before it's to late.
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Big thing is work when you work the job i do you dont just take a day off when you feel like it you have to ask weeks in advanced to get a day off as long as it is a viable excuse.
I'm sorry, but if you've decided to work in an industry where this is normal, you really shouldn't own any pets. Call it Murphy's Law or just bad karma, but it's guaranteed something will go wrong - you, your kid, or your pet - will get sick or injured, and will need emergency care at the worst time. If "I had to miss work to take my snake to the vet" will get you fired, then the responsible decision for both the snake and for your family is to re-home the snake.
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I'm sorry, but if you've decided to work in an industry where this is normal, you really shouldn't own any pets. Call it Murphy's Law or just bad karma, but it's guaranteed something will go wrong - you, your kid, or your pet - will get sick or injured, and will need emergency care at the worst time. If "I had to miss work to take my snake to the vet" will get you fired, then the responsible decision for both the snake and for your family is to re-home the snake.
Some one has to serve the country, if it was a human issue they would be willing to let me go. I already asked about pet issues and was told no find my own time to do it.
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I think Carissa is going to try to get Jennifer to me. I have a reptile vet who's one of the best in the country. He's AMAZING with animals; he once repaired a queen bee's wings so the hive would survive. If this works out, I will do all that I can to help this little ball python. If she can be saved, my vet will know how to help me do it. I'll keep everyone posted on how things go.

I am going to get get jennifer to you as soon as I can so hopefully friday at the latest.
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Some one has to serve the country, if it was a human issue they would be willing to let me go. I already asked about pet issues and was told no find my own time to do it.
You spend a lot of time on this website while "serving" our country. Another prime example of the American tax dollar at work making our lives better.
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