NYS seeks to criminalize reptile ownership

[Roadtrash]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

It actually makes a point to not include domestic animals so your hyperbole is uncalled for.

Use some actual knowledge and form a solid response. This kind of response will only further them to outright banning everything.

You didn't recognize a little humor there? Surely you didn't think I was being serious about cows and chickens.

[Jendee]

I have several friends in NY one of which has a open payment plan for a boa with me. Who is quite upset and distraught over this :/ this whole thing (once it starts passing counties, cities and states) will spread like wildfire

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Jendee

I have several friends in NY one of which has a open payment plan for a boa with me. Who is quite upset and distraught over this :/ this whole thing (once it starts passing counties, cities and states) will spread like wildfire

Why are people crying over this when I don't hear that they are finding out when they can go speak and try to change it? It's like voting. If you didn't vote, you can't complain about the President after!

Jarich, I'll respond to you soon

[shaunyboy]

imo most western governments are trying to take away peoples freedom,under the guise of its for your own good,we are protecting you...

just look at all the new laws implemented after 911

imo now the government has most folk groomed into thinking the government knows best,is doing it for the good of the Country,etc..

they are now going overboard with new laws and amendments,in the name of we are protecting the public

i really hope this amendment does not go through,for all you Keepers in New York

also with all the crap going on regards the reccesion,you would think picking on reptile keepers,would not be at the top of a list of things to do ?

all the best,shaun

[dinosaurdammit]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

imo most western governments are trying to take away peoples freedom,under the guise of its for your own good,we are protecting you...

just look at all the new laws implemented after 911

imo now the government has most folk groomed into thinking the government knows best,is doing it for the good of the Country,etc..

they are now going overboard with new laws and amendments,in the name of we are protecting the public

i really hope this amendment does not go through,for all you Keepers in New York

also with all the crap going on regards the reccesion,you would think picking on reptile keepers,would not be at the top of a list of things to do ?

all the best,shaun

You know these people have all this time to **** around and pass bs laws but our budget is still in need of balancing as well as other topics that are worth a dang. :I MERICA HECK YEA my foot. Ugh. Germany here I come.

[infernalis]

Just so everyone knows, I am reading and taking all of this in.

[blindfireak40]

Hahaha Oh relax, Dinosaur, you live in Arizona! You've got another couple of decades before you really have to worry about any serious right infringement...at least I hope and pray so. Arizona is my planned refuge if stuff starts going really nuts here in CA.

[MoreliAddict]

Originally Posted by infernalis

Just so everyone knows, I am reading and taking all of this in.

Same. Good read whether you have anything to add or not. lol

[dinosaurdammit]

Originally Posted by blindfireak40

Hahaha Oh relax, Dinosaur, you live in Arizona! You've got another couple of decades before you really have to worry about any serious right infringement...at least I hope and pray so. Arizona is my planned refuge if stuff starts going really nuts here in CA.

Screw arizona- this place is crooked as the day is long, im moving back to alabama eventually, once my husband retires from the air force. In the immortal words of Jon Reep "If i wanna keep a bobcat in my coat closet IMA DO THAT"

[Kettennatter]

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

also with all the crap going on regards the reccesion,you would think picking on reptile keepers,would not be at the top of a list of things to do ?

It's called "redirection", and I do it with my kids all the time. Are they crying because I won't take them to McD? I'm sure there is a dog in the yard I could point out to them ...

[blindfireak40]

Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

Screw arizona- this place is crooked as the day is long, im moving back to alabama eventually, once my husband retires from the air force. In the immortal words of Jon Reep "If i wanna keep a bobcat in my coat closet IMA DO THAT"

I suppose it's all perspective...as a lifelong California resident, Arizona looks a bit like the promised land lol. Montana or Wyoming would be better, though.

Any plans for action yet, Wayne??

[MoreliAddict]

Has anyone seen this link to petition?

New York Action Alert Assembly Bill 2869 | USARK

[Akuma223]

Why does it say Connecticut environmental committee in the link?

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by Kettennatter

It's called "redirection", and I do it with my kids all the time. Are they crying because I won't take them to McD? I'm sure there is a dog in the yard I could point out to them ...

to be honest mate.....

our governments getting that bad,that they don't even bother throwing some misdirection our way,no they just pass crap and say it's done,so deal with it...

imo our countrys heading for some serious uprisings,in the not so distant future

cheers shaun

[Aaron_S]

You know Wayne I made a post about the definition of domesticate and domesticated animal in another thread.

With the right argument you could argue that snakes are domesticated pets. I spoke with the councilman I mentioned earlier and he agreed that showing up and saying your piece on what you keep would be most ideal. Get some NYS friends who have reptiles to go with you.

I'd also bring the Toronto legislation with the 2 meter for lizards and 3 meter for snake law stuff too. At least that way they can feel like both sides "won" by getting something "banned".