new to this forum, also, some help from the experienced

[yoimjohn]

also, im starting to consider a red tail boa constricter.

is a 50 gallon tank to small for adult size though?

let me correct myselif, im looking for a docile snake, not too long 10 ft max.
not to hard to keep up on humidity wise cause i dont want to buy another tank if i dont gotta

[Kettennatter]

Originally Posted by yoimjohn

also, im starting to consider a red tail boa constricter.

is a 50 gallon tank to small for adult size though?

Boas have both temperature and humidity requirements. As much as I love my boa, I would stick with a domestic snake (colubrid) if you want an easy setup.

From king snakes, to corn snakes up to bull snakes: Most of the domestic snakes are relatively easy to maintain, because they are used to our climate.

[Calihusker]

All in all, I think you should do a good pileup of solo research before purchasing any snake, since your knowledge primarily lies in lizards.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by Kettennatter

Boas have both temperature and humidity requirements. As much as I love my boa, I would stick with a domestic snake (colubrid) if you want an easy setup.

From king snakes, to corn snakes up to bull snakes: Most of the domestic snakes are relatively easy to maintain, because they are used to our climate.

This is solid advice.

From your posts I don't think you are committed to making it work. You really need to stick to a room temperature snake like corns and garters. You have already been told that you should fix your lid so the humidity can stabilize and yet you ignore it. Also seeing as this is your first snake I would get something less than six feet.

Corns come in many amazing colors and patterns for under $200. The 50 gallon will last it for life. They are cheap to feed and easy to Rehome.

As for boas, I always recommend one but not this time. They need higher humidity than you seem willing to provide. They can get expensive to feed as they get older. A fifty gallon really won't adequately house one over 4.5 feet. I had a 7.5 foot female and she was easy enough for me to handle but not many people would've been able to do it. A ten foot boa will require two people to handle.

[SnakeyJay]

Originally Posted by Kettennatter

Boas have both temperature and humidity requirements. As much as I love my boa, I would stick with a domestic snake (colubrid) if you want an easy setup.

From king snakes, to corn snakes up to bull snakes: Most of the domestic snakes are relatively easy to maintain, because they are used to our climate.

Domestic snakes? This is new.... Which snakes would you consider domesticated.

[KORBIN5895]

Originally Posted by Snakey-Jay

Domestic snakes? This is new.... Which snakes would you consider domesticated.

I think he meant American continental snakes

[yoimjohn]

well i plan on doing more research, im goingto go look at some snakes around in the area, see if they got anything im interested in

so are ball pythons the only very docile snake in the 4-6 foot range?

and if im right they will need a humidity system, unless someone can point me in the direction of the same snake but a subspecies that can do good with 30-40 percent humidity, n during the summer a little higher but not to much.

[SnakeyJay]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I think he meant American continental snakes

Ah I get you... So the humidity needs is on par with the local environment...

[Calihusker]

Originally Posted by yoimjohn

well i plan on doing more research, im goingto go look at some snakes around in the area, see if they got anything im interested in

so are ball pythons the only very docile snake in the 4-6 foot range?

and if im right they will need a humidity system, unless someone can point me in the direction of the same snake but a subspecies that can do good with 30-40 percent humidity, n during the summer a little higher but not to much.

There are tons of docile snakes in the 4-6 foot range.

BP's are an example, but there are also Spotted Pythons, Childrens Pythons, Hognoses, and many colubrids. None of these snakes need a humidity system, but in my opinion, buy a plastic bin (sterilite etc.) and drill some air holes in the sides. Make sure it has a locking or tight snap-on style lid. This is perfect for the snakes I listed and you only need to mist every once in awhile. Maybe once or twice a week depending on your substrate.
(Hognose is a colubrid)

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by Snakey-Jay

Domestic snakes? This is new.... Which snakes would you consider domesticated.

Judging by the wording, I would bet this means "Pet trade" snakes.

[Kettennatter]

Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I think he meant American continental snakes

Indeed. Garters can be found pretty much across the street and in neighbors' basements. King Snakes can be found even in Los Angeles, etc.

In summary, a snake that could be found in your house is most likely one that is easy to keep in a simple setup.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by Calihusker

There are tons of docile snakes in the 4-6 foot range.

BP's are an example, but there are also Spotted Pythons, Childrens Pythons, Hognoses, and many colubrids. None of these snakes need a humidity system, but in my opinion, buy a plastic bin (sterilite etc.) and drill some air holes in the sides. Make sure it has a locking or tight snap-on style lid. This is perfect for the snakes I listed and you only need to mist every once in awhile. Maybe once or twice a week depending on your substrate.
(Hognose is a colubrid)

None of the snakes you listed get to 4 feet. I have bred the spotteds before and they are of the larger one's in that family of pythons.


You made some good points though later on.


For docile snakes in the 4 - 6 foot range WITH colour and no humidity I would consider a gopher, bull or pine snake. In particular the gopher and bull snakes. They have plenty of morphs and are easily kept. Problem is sometimes they aren't so nice no matter what.

Otherwise, honestly, get a corn snake. Don't look at it like a "basic" snake because I can tell that's what you're doing. You want the "cool" factor. Corns are plainly just awesome to keep.

[Corey209]

This makes me want to get a coxi...

[Calihusker]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

None of the snakes you listed get to 4 feet. I have bred the spotteds before and they are of the larger one's in that family of pythons.


You made some good points though later on.


For docile snakes in the 4 - 6 foot range WITH colour and no humidity I would consider a gopher, bull or pine snake. In particular the gopher and bull snakes. They have plenty of morphs and are easily kept. Problem is sometimes they aren't so nice no matter what.

Otherwise, honestly, get a corn snake. Don't look at it like a "basic" snake because I can tell that's what you're doing. You want the "cool" factor. Corns are plainly just awesome to keep.

He said 4-6 Ft. All of the snakes I listed except for hognose can achieve those lengths.

[iBaman]

I would say hognose. Cute, colorful, easy...and did i mention cute?!



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