my snake wont poop! - Page 3

Wanka2012 · 10-10-12, 05:39 PM

i clarified unusual, and he was at the coolest place of my terrarium. And Ivalynfyre, that picture doesnt even compare to what my snake looked like, not to mention my snake is only 15 inches long. Think of a basketball in a garden hose for comparison

Wyldrose · 10-10-12, 05:41 PM

I would NEVER ever let anyone force a snake to reguritate! Don't feed him or handle him for 10 days now. Now that he has regurgitated you have to get his stomach going again. Which means a smaller then normal meal ie rat pinky add some slices into its skin to make it easier to digest.

From the way he was acting I would check the temps your keeping your snake at. Something is not right for him to react that way. Basically if they can get it down they usually can digest them.

Wanka2012 · 10-10-12, 05:47 PM

And Ivalynfyre saying "He could have digested it just fine" is exactly what got me into trouble in the first place. And thanks for the advice Wyldrose! I have a whole list of instructions to follow that the veterinarian gave me also. Keep Wanka in your prayers!

shaunyboy · 10-10-12, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanka2012

Ballpython1717- Be careful what people are telling you to feed him!!! I listened to Mykee and others who were telling me I was feeding my snake too little of a mouse. Mykee explained to me that his baby ball python's eat small adult mice out of the egg, and that a 3 month old should be eating large adult mice. I followed his and other people agreeing with him's advice, which turned out to be disastrous. I'm not trying to slam anyone on here, but these are the facts. I had to take my snake to the vet today because he was acting unusual. The vet told me word for word "The size prey you fed your snake is EXTREMELY too large" and she proceeded to force regurgitate the mouse. I fed my snake a medium adult mouse- He's not a new born so I didn't go with small adult mice, but large adult mice looked far to big. Use your OWN judgement ballpython1717!!!! I feel awful for my snake, he could have DIED.

you really need to CHANGE your vet mate

NOT all vets have good reptile experience

what do you mean by your snake was acting unusual ?

how many days passed before you took him to the vet AFTER he fed ?

a 3 month old ball python will easily eat a medium mouse.imo its your VET who has given wrong advice mate not Mykee,ANY vet worth their title would know NOT to make a snake regurge

cheers shaun

Ivalynfyre · 10-10-12, 05:55 PM

Nope, we aren't vets, but not all vets know how to treat reptiles. Honestly, flipping over on its belly and constantly yawning don't sound like something that would happen because of an oversized meal.

shaunyboy · 10-10-12, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanka2012

let me clarify, unusual: continuously opening his mouth as if he is "yawning" adjusting his jaw. He was lying upside down when I found him this morning. Rapid breathing. Strange crackling noises from the site of the medium mouse inside his body. And he had not moved from the same spot since yesterday morning.

is there excess mucas in your snakers mouth ?

is his throat puffed up ?

could the strange crackling noises be coming from his mouth/nostrils ?

a snake lying upside down may be a cause for concern...

your vet may have broke some ribs,it depends on how rough they were with the snake,when they induced a regurge

what are your hot end temperatures ?

cheers shaun

Wanka2012 · 10-10-12, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanka2012

let me clarify, unusual: continuously opening his mouth as if he is "yawning" adjusting his jaw. He was lying upside down when I found him this morning. Rapid breathing. Strange crackling noises from the site of the medium mouse inside his body. And he had not moved from the same spot since yesterday morning.

For people asking me to clarify unusual- I did it on the second page. Anyways guys, as I said, I'm not doing this to be accusatory or to slam anyone. I'm saying this because it's what happened. I almost didn't want to post this, but I felt it needed to be addressed.

I fed him Monday Night, I took him to the vet Tuesday afternoon. My snake is 15 inches long. I did not know the age of my snake, but I assumed it was 3 months (I even put that info in my original thread). I also posted a picture of my snake. Regardless, I was told that baby balll pythons out of the egg should be eating small adult mice and that 3 month old ball pythons should be eating large adult mice, so I went with medium adult mice. Hot temps are 90, cool side is around 82, the humidity is 65. I cannot see his throat, and I do believe that crackling noises were coming from his body, not his mouth, maybe extra bones breaking??? The mouse is out now, and he is no longer showing those symptoms. The snake was lying upside down Before the vet, after the vet he seems to be doing okay, but it's only been a day.

Anyways, Now I'm getting it from two ends, the vet basically calls me stupid for feeding a snake prey that size and from this forum people think I did something wrong by taking him to the vet.... In the end, I want what's best for my snake.

Gungirl · 10-10-12, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanka2012

Ballpython1717- Be careful what people are telling you to feed him!!! I listened to Mykee and others who were telling me I was feeding my snake too little of a mouse. Mykee explained to me that his baby ball python's eat small adult mice out of the egg, and that a 3 month old should be eating large adult mice. I followed his and other people agreeing with him's advice, which turned out to be disastrous. I'm not trying to slam anyone on here, but these are the facts. I had to take my snake to the vet today because he was acting unusual. The vet told me word for word "The size prey you fed your snake is EXTREMELY too large" and she proceeded to force regurgitate the mouse. I fed my snake a medium adult mouse- He's not a new born so I didn't go with small adult mice, but large adult mice looked far to big. Use your OWN judgement ballpython1717!!!! I feel awful for my snake, he could have DIED.

You and your vet is the only reason your snake could have died. Forcing your snake to regurgitate was a really stupid choice.
If you want what is best for your snake then feed it and leave it alone. Do not take a snake that has just been fed to the vets and stress it out for no reason. Most vets don't know the head from the arse of a snake never mind what size prey to feed it.

shaunyboy · 10-10-12, 06:06 PM

heres some examples of a snakes ability to consume LARGE prey

Wanka2012 · 10-10-12, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gungirl

You and your vet is the only reason your snake could have died. Forcing your snake to regurgitate was a really stupid choice.
If you want what is best for your snake then feed it and leave it alone. Do not take a snake that has just been fed to the vets and stress it out for no reason. Most vets don't know the head from the arse of a snake never mind what size prey to feed it.

Thanks for your support. You are the exact reason why I'm not coming back to this forum. To everyone that was kind to me, thanks so much!Gungirl, You are going to kill someones snake with that attitude.

NO REASON?? I took my snake to the vet for no reason??? It lying upside in his terrarium is no reason???? Okay. Go kill someone elses snake.

shaunyboy · 10-10-12, 06:15 PM

as you can see,snakes can take much larger prey than you would think possible mate

your vet was WRONG to force a regurge

cheers shaun

Wanka2012 · 10-10-12, 06:20 PM

it was lying upside down, constantly opening it's mouth, making crackling noises from the site, sitting on the cool side of the terrarium- Might I add, in the open. And other activities, and someones going to tell me I took my snake to the vet for no reason. Ridiculous. The vet may have acted wrong, but I DIDN'T.

What happened is that people shouted out instructions without knowing anything about my snake and it could have been very deadly. People (like Mykee) need to watch out before they give these instructions, or they are going to get someone in a lot of trouble.

shaunyboy · 10-10-12, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanka2012

For people asking me to clarify unusual- I did it on the second page. Anyways guys, as I said, I'm not doing this to be accusatory or to slam anyone. I'm saying this because it's what happened. I almost didn't want to post this, but I felt it needed to be addressed.

I fed him Monday Night, I took him to the vet Tuesday afternoon. My snake is 15 inches long. I did not know the age of my snake, but I assumed it was 3 months (I even put that info in my original thread). I also posted a picture of my snake. Regardless, I was told that baby balll pythons out of the egg should be eating small adult mice and that 3 month old ball pythons should be eating large adult mice, so I went with medium adult mice. Hot temps are 90, cool side is around 82, the humidity is 65. I cannot see his throat, and I do believe that crackling noises were coming from his body, not his mouth, maybe extra bones breaking??? The mouse is out now, and he is no longer showing those symptoms. The snake was lying upside down Before the vet, after the vet he seems to be doing okay, but it's only been a day.

Anyways, Now I'm getting it from two ends, the vet basically calls me stupid for feeding a snake prey that size and from this forum people think I did something wrong by taking him to the vet.... In the end, I want what's best for my snake.

re crackling noises
my carpets sometimes makes a russtling/crackling sound when they are just about to shed,its from the old dry skin thats about to shed off

cheers shaun

Kavyrie · 10-10-12, 06:25 PM

I'm gonna butt in and say that you were right to bring your snake to the vet, but Shaun makes a good point that "crackling" noises can actually the skin about to shed off. Snakes will open and unhinge their jaws to loosen the skin on their face/head, and I've seen my snakes do some funky things right before shedding. I think you should look into finding a new vet, unless its an ABSOLUTE emergency there is no reason to force a snake to regurge. If it needs to it will. Snakes will regurge prey that is too large.

Gungirl · 10-10-12, 06:27 PM

I thought you where not coming back to the forum?

Hrmm.. all the things you stated tell me your snake was ill prior to feeding it. You had a sick snake due to something weather it be how you kept it or who you bought it from. It had NOTHING to do with the size of food you fed it. Do not blame your snake being ill on Mykee or anyone's advice cause that is false. The truth is your snake got sick in your care or was sick when you bought it and you wish to blame someone else.