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Old 02-19-03, 05:12 AM   #16
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Brian, i am just as new as you are but from what i understand your monitor is doing great
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Old 02-19-03, 07:49 PM   #17
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Behaviors can be very easily misinterpreted and impossible to judge in text, only observation.

As for the "Turkey Diet", I think it is of no benefit to monitors at all, not to mention it is more difficult and messier.......enough reasons for me. Properly reared whole prey items have everything a growing monitor needs......

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Old 02-21-03, 04:18 PM   #18
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?rN?.R. and Jeff

Just found out she a has a type of hookworm, so i started another post. although she is still in excellent condition fiestey, alert with a great appitiate, and drinking well, and seems comfortalbe at all levels of the stack.

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P.S. N.A. what do you interput the digging to mean eg trying to escape, or just digging because thats what they do lol
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Old 02-23-03, 07:25 AM   #19
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From what you've mentioned there and what I've seen of your enclosure, I'd say stress. But again, you're the one observing. The question becomes; Are you seeing what you think you are seeing?

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Old 02-23-03, 07:45 AM   #20
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Hi Jon,

I think I see what Im seeing, but Im not sure what you think I'm seeing, but what I am seeing seems like a well asjusted Albig.

Also from what i can see, he likes seeing out ot the enclousre

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Old 02-24-03, 08:59 PM   #21
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from what ive read the turkey diet has been used and approved of by several zoos including san diego. also too many rodents have been proven to bulk up monitors too much and cause serious liver and kidney probs
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Regarding Paul's post

Paul can you elaborate on your statement that too many rodents will cause liver and kindney failure. I'm curious about this and would like to hear more. Can you also provide citations for where it has been proven. Were you talking about albigs in particular or monitors in general. Thanks a lot.

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i didnt say it would cause liver and kidney failure, just certain problms have been highlighted by over feeding rodents to all age of monitors. because of the high protein diet it can cause stress to certain organs, and lead to an premature death
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Thanks

Ok, I see what you mean. However, I have to disagree with you. Where has it been proven that this is the case with monitors? I've heard this (as most have) so many times but never any solid evidence to back it.

Just seeing if you have some insight into this topic that may have been overlooked,

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Old 03-03-03, 12:47 AM   #25
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ok but from what i ahve seen in, admittidly limited numbers of monitors raised from birth. that the ones fed a complete rodent diet from pinks to adults have had a shorter lifespan, attained huge weight and been far less active. maybe thee few animals are a one off, but i can only report what ive seen and experienced. whereas others that have had a mixed diet of insects, fish, chicken gizzards and the very occasional rodent that they have been more active, and in my opinion been more relaxed
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All I know is that I used to feed the monitors at the zoo a balance diet of rats, mice we threw crikets and other insects in for a snake when they would get hungry befor feeding day we also new a rabit breeder he used to breed rabits for ppl who like rabit sew but he would cut off the head and legs and when he went on a killing spree we got all the left overs and then we had a feeding frenzy along with some birds and some FRESH steak.

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