Hello :)

[Splashstorm]

Thank you exwizard : ) I do as well.

[Wildside]

Out of shear curiosity? Why have you decided on the Dumeril's versus the Redtail?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Wildside

Out of shear curiosity? Why have you decided on the Dumeril's versus the Redtail?

You mean Common Boa, no need to confuse new people, set them straight.

To the op, you seem to have a handle on the hobby, now go get your snake.
My recommendation for your first snake would be a Central American Boa.

[Wildside]

Originally Posted by Jay

You mean Common Boa, no need to confuse new people, set them straight.

To the op, you seem to have a handle on the hobby, now go get your snake.
My recommendation for your first snake would be a Central American Boa.

If I wanted to suggest a common boa I would have

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Wildside

If I wanted to suggest a common boa I would have

I knew you were going to say that!
Why would you sugest a BCC to a rookie keeper? Especially since you suggested a corn snake.

[Wildside]

Originally Posted by Jay

I knew you were going to say that!
Why would you sugest a BCC to a rookie keeper? Especially since you suggested a corn snake.

How do you know I wasn't suggesting a Suri?

[Jay]

Is that a serious question? I know everything that's how. lol

You're right I jumped to conclusions, sorry for that. I still wouldn't recommend a BCC for a first time snake.

[Wildside]

Originally Posted by Jay

Is that a serious question? I know everything that's how. lol

You're right I jumped to conclusions, sorry for that. I still wouldn't recommend a BCC for a first time snake.

Me either... I suggested a corn snake


In all honesty though I'm wondering why the OP chose Dumeril's over any BCI. Jay you and I both know BCI is a great starter snake and in my honest experience I would recommend them over a Dumeril's to anyone who started out skittish. I only have two reasons which are soley my own though and not supported by scientific evidence or popular opinion.

My reasons a BCI is better to begin with than a Dum are as follows:
1. In my experience, you are more likely to get tagged by a Dum
2. They are a more intimidating looking snake as far as facial features go. If a new keeper hasn't yet learned how to read the body language of a snake then this might confuse them.

As I said those are MY only reasons for not recommending a Dum to start with. I do highly recommend Dum's in general, just not for skittish beginners.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Wildside

Me either... I suggested a corn snake


In all honesty though I'm wondering why the OP chose Dumeril's over any BCI. Jay you and I both know BCI is a great starter snake and in my honest experience I would recommend them over a Dumeril's to anyone who started out skittish. I only have two reasons which are soley my own though and not supported by scientific evidence or popular opinion.

My reasons a BCI is better to begin with than a Dum are as follows:
1. In my experience, you are more likely to get tagged by a Dum
2. They are a more intimidating looking snake as far as facial features go. If a new keeper hasn't yet learned how to read the body language of a snake then this might confuse them.


As I said those are MY only reasons for not recommending a Dum to start with. I do highly recommend Dum's in general, just not for skittish beginners.

Couldn't agree more.

[snake man12]

Originally Posted by Wildside

Me either... I suggested a corn snake


In all honesty though I'm wondering why the OP chose Dumeril's over any BCI. Jay you and I both know BCI is a great starter snake and in my honest experience I would recommend them over a Dumeril's to anyone who started out skittish. I only have two reasons which are soley my own though and not supported by scientific evidence or popular opinion.

My reasons a BCI is better to begin with than a Dum are as follows:
1. In my experience, you are more likely to get tagged by a Dum
2. They are a more intimidating looking snake as far as facial features go. If a new keeper hasn't yet learned how to read the body language of a snake then this might confuse them.

As I said those are MY only reasons for not recommending a Dum to start with. I do highly recommend Dum's in general, just not for skittish beginners.

This is not true dums have lower care requirements and are more laid back and lax. My dum has a puppy face!!! You are not more likely to get tagged by a dum period. I believe exwizard would agree and he has seven of them!

[snake man12]

Also I have recently read some where that dums are actually a part of the boa constrictor genus now.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by snake man12

This is not true dums have lower care requirements and are more laid back and lax. My dum has a puppy face!!! You are not more likely to get tagged by a dum period. I believe exwizard would agree and he has seven of them!

My dum would always try and tag you.

[Wildside]

Originally Posted by Jay

My dum would always try and tag you.

Mine struck at a fly in the cage the other night. IMO they just aren't reliable enough to be a starter snake for skittish people.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Wildside

Mine struck at a fly in the cage the other night. IMO they just aren't reliable enough to be a starter snake for skittish people.

Isn't it clear that you are starving your snake? I feel bad for him, he's so hungry he tried to eat a fly.

Now to the op, IMO dum's are much less thrilling to own then a bci.

[snake man12]

That is an opine belief to say they are much more thrilling to own.
Maybe you should handle your dum a little more[has an arrogant smile].