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Old 08-09-12, 05:35 PM   #16
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Re: A story of heartache and happiness.

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I want pics, I doubt you picked up a pied for $50, because the breeder that sold it to the pet store sold it to them for a hell of a lot more than $50, so the pet store knew exactly what it was.
Pics.
Unless someone just brought it in cause they didn't want it anymore? I know people who do that at our local pet store.
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Old 08-09-12, 05:49 PM   #17
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Maybe het pied?
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Maybe het pied?
This seems more likely^^
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Old 08-10-12, 11:40 AM   #19
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but maybe someone else would help, too..
A few things...

This is what everyone has been saying in this thread to NOT do.

I think it's not a pied but maybe a ringer...
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Old 08-10-12, 11:53 AM   #20
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Re: A story of heartache and happiness.

Stories like this burn me up! It honestly is not at all hard to take care of animals in a pet shop. I know because I used to own one. There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of behavior. Here's my advice...

Next time you feel the need to save a snake, mill around until the store has a few people in there. Then work out your deal, pay, get the animal in your possession and then verbally assault the owner/manager (whoever has the highest authority at that point). Point out every terrible thing they are doing loud enough for the audience to hear. Word will start spreading like wildfire not to buy from there anymore
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Old 08-10-12, 11:58 AM   #21
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On Tuesday morning I went a local mom and pop pet shop to look around and see if they had some supplies I normally use for my reptiles for cheaper. They had a very limited reptile section, but was happy to find some aspen for a pretty good price.

As I kept walking around, I noticed that they also had some animals for sale. Mainly it was just birds and hamsters, but I was surprised to see that they had reptiles too. They had some gecko's and a couple baby dragons. But it was what I saw next that led to my heartache.

Sitting in a five-gallon tank, was a ball python. It didn't have any heat whatsoever. No hides, no water. He was just sitting on newspaper that looked like it hadn't been changed in about a month. I approached the tank and the smell that was coming out of there was something not of this world. It smelled like death.

I asked one of the guy's working there if he knew why that poor snake was in the condition that he was in, and all he said was "How should I know?" and just walked away. I was just too stunned to even say anything back.

So out of my frustration, I demanded that they open the tank and let me examine him. At first they said no, because they said he wasn't the nicest snake ever. But I still demanded that they let me see him. They finally gave in.

He had severe scale rot and was very skinny. The last time he ate was almost a month and a half ago! The second I grabbed him (or her) she wrapped around my arm, absorbing in all the warmth she, or he, could get. That's when I decided to take him home. They gave him to me for $50. I paid quickly and went straight to my vet where she gave me some antibiotics.

Now, I'm very new to the whole snake thing. I just got my first last week and I love him to itty bitty pieces, but this one, this one just stole my heart completely. He's the sweetest thing in the world.


I now have Chance in my reptile room, along with Bono, my other BP, Betsy my Bearded Dragon, Louie my Leopard Gecko and Daisy and Lola, my Crested Gecko's. I have him with paper towel that I change daily, some hides and water dish. He's living comfy in a 40gal breeder tank and I hope to feed him soon.

That's my part of the happiness, but one thing that I left out is that ... IT'S A PIED! He's so beautiful. I'll post some pics of him once he's feeling up for it.

So yeah, that's my story guys.
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Yeah, I know I gotta move him. I'm just waiting for my parents to make room in the spare room we have as a quarantine area. He should be moved there by tomorrow.
Why bother to quarantine this new one? You obviously didn't quarantine your last one. Please don't tell us you do something and then be so obvious that you really don't.

As for sending an inspector I wouldn't waste my time as the evidence left the store when you purchased that snake.
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Old 08-10-12, 12:09 PM   #22
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Re: A story of heartache and happiness.

I commend your efforts. I agree with others that this shop will likely find another BP to suffer in those horrible conditions. I would call the humane society (or any other animal sanctuary / regulator) and expose those jackasses (sorry for getting heated) for what they are. Hopefully they will take their license away!
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I don't think you guys understand. In order for a store to be shut down there has to be evidence of animal cruelty and it has to be observed by a person with some authority. Good luck finding a person with authority who doesn't have a broad range of what is and isn't acceptable as far as "cruelty" goes. In this day and age you have iphones and facebook. Take a picture of the terrible conditions and post it in your newsfeed with "Share" if you think this shop should be shut down. Bottom Line: It's a fatal blow to the shop's reputation, which in turn will be a blow to their bottom line. Got it?
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I don't think you guys understand. In order for a store to be shut down there has to be evidence of animal cruelty and it has to be observed by a person with some authority. Good luck finding a person with authority who doesn't have a broad range of what is and isn't acceptable as far as "cruelty" goes. In this day and age you have iphones and facebook. Take a picture of the terrible conditions and post it in your newsfeed with "Share" if you think this shop should be shut down. Bottom Line: It's a fatal blow to the shop's reputation, which in turn will be a blow to their bottom line. Got it?
Posting a picture or two on facebook is a fatal blow to a shop's reputation?
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Posting a picture or two on facebook is a fatal blow to a shop's reputation?
Can be if done right

For bad shops, for good shops it can be a tremendous boost in advertising.
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Can be if done right

For bad shops, for good shops it can be a tremendous boost in advertising.
Wild's right. It can rally a lot of fuss, controversy and exposure to the place. Not entirely foolproof, but like Wild said, its probably more effective than making a call to the local humane society or animal control, neither of which are knowledgeable enough with herps to make any kind of fairr assessment.
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okay so.. where are pics already?????
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Re: A story of heartache and happiness.

Not that this is a defense for ignorance , but often these owners of pet shops do not have the know how to care for a lot of animals they sell . It should be the they should educate themselves how to care for animals. Before going off Half cocked and raising hell , why not try having a civil discussion about the care of certain animals. Maybe the employee was an idiot but perhaps the business owners are reasonable. You never know , you could just end up saving all the animals that do go through that shop. All to often some on this board are too quick to judge. If the store owners are ingnorant and unwilling to learn then call an inspector. Why ruin someone's livelihood on what is an ignorant and uneducated mistake. Just my opinion . We all started out with our animals
Knowing little to nothing about them .
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Not that this is a defense for ignorance , but often these owners of pet shops do not have the know how to care for a lot of animals they sell . It should be the they should educate themselves how to care for animals. Before going off Half cocked and raising hell , why not try having a civil discussion about the care of certain animals. Maybe the employee was an idiot but perhaps the business owners are reasonable. You never know , you could just end up saving all the animals that do go through that shop. All to often some on this board are too quick to judge. If the store owners are ingnorant and unwilling to learn then call an inspector. Why ruin someone's livelihood on what is an ignorant and uneducated mistake. Just my opinion . We all started out with our animals
Knowing little to nothing about them
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That info is so wrong.
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I would like to point out that the only problem mentioned in this thread was this snake. No other animals were claimed to be miss treated.
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