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05-09-12, 07:33 AM
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Custos serpentium
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Neurological issues poll
I'm a curious sort of fella and I'm a numbers kinda guy, so just to satisfy my own pondering, here's a poll about neuro issues...
It's an anonymous poll and it'll run for a week.
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05-09-12, 07:33 AM
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The Original Urban Legend
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Re: Neurological issues poll
Where's the poll? There's nothing there.
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05-09-12, 07:33 AM
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Re: Neurological issues poll
At least for me I'm not seeing any poll....
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05-09-12, 07:35 AM
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Custos serpentium
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Re: Neurological issues poll
Gawd people, it's a 2-step process...patience...patience
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05-09-12, 07:41 AM
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Re: Neurological issues poll
None of my snakes currently have neurological issues, but if any of them did, and I was still in the breeding game, I probably would NOT breed them unless I knew exactly what the cause was (EX: a head injury that I personally witnessed).
I personally do not think we know enough about neurology in snakes (or any reptiles, for that matter), so we don't fully understand what would be inheritable/genetic and what isn't. That's my reasoning.
Perhaps there's some medical information I have not yet been made aware of that suggests otherwise, in which case, I do remain open-minded.
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05-09-12, 07:45 AM
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queen of the Chicken Dance
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Re: Neurological issues poll
None of my snakes have neurological issues, but if one of them did, i would not breed them for the reason i would not want to risk it passing it to future offspring.
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05-09-12, 07:47 AM
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Super Genius
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Re: Neurological issues poll
I have a few spider and spider cross ball pythons that have the spider wobble. I have and do breed them.
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05-09-12, 09:44 AM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Neurological issues poll
i have a jag that gets a little excited when picked up,she shows no signs any other time
she will be bred next year
cheers shaun
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05-09-12, 09:55 AM
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Varanus Queen
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Re: Neurological issues poll
I had one snake that had neurological issues at one point, but she was never bred.
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05-09-12, 10:00 AM
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Captain America
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Re: Neurological issues poll
My Coastal Jag use to get a little off balance when excited, but as she gets older she seem to have out grown it. It would only happen when she smelled food. I got her for the propose of breeding her to my Jungle x Jag, but i don't think i'll ever breed her.
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05-09-12, 10:33 AM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Re: Neurological issues poll
I don't have any snakes with neurological issues. If I had, I would find it extremely selfish to breed. IMO that shows absolutely no regard or respect for the animal. Afterall, isn't that what this hobby is about? Respect for the animals?
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05-09-12, 11:52 AM
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Super Genius
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Re: Neurological issues poll
I respect my animals; they are fed the best quality food, cleaned daily if necessary, and kept in immaculate conditions. Fresh water daily as well. Breeding a snake (in this case, a spider ball python) is not detrimental in any way to the snake or it's offspring. They eat, poop and breed like any other animal.
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05-09-12, 11:59 AM
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Re: Neurological issues poll
None of mine do because I only have two snakes, but if they did.. I would *not* breed them.
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05-09-12, 12:14 PM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Re: Neurological issues poll
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Originally Posted by mykee
I respect my animals; they are fed the best quality food, cleaned daily if necessary, and kept in immaculate conditions. Fresh water daily as well. Breeding a snake (in this case, a spider ball python) is not detrimental in any way to the snake or it's offspring. They eat, poop and breed like any other animal.
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I did not intend to offend, Mykee.
Let me ask you (all of you) this.
If you had a child with, say, autism, (just an example) and you knew you were the carrier of that gene. Lets say you also know, for certain, that if you fathered an additional children they would also be autistic. They eat, they poop, you keep your home immaculate, but you carry the gene. Would you continue to have children?
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05-09-12, 12:20 PM
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Re: Neurological issues poll
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Originally Posted by Strutter769
I did not intend to offend, Mykee.
Let me ask you (all of you) this.
If you had a child with, say, autism, (just an example) and you knew you were the carrier of that gene. Lets say you also know, for certain, that if you fathered an additional children they would also be autistic. They eat, they poop, you keep your home immaculate, but you carry the gene. Would you continue to have children?
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Actually, if you have a child with autism, you do have a high genetic risk (19%) of subsequent children having autism too. And parents do in fact have children after having an autistic child and knowing the risk. So.... IDK.
Edit to add: it's also not a comparable example, since snakes are much simpler creatures than the complex human. How we determine quality of life for a human is so different to how we measure quality of life in a reptile. The head wobble of a spidery ball python is no where near the severity of the symptoms of a neurological issue in a human.
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