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Old 02-20-12, 02:06 AM   #31
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I know a place!! But I'm BC... They eat everything over there.... You'll be walking then all of a suddn you hear the desperate cries of a helpless animal, and by the time you find it, a garter snake is half way up back... poor treefrogs... Next thing you know a fish is jumping on shore and... nope a snake has that one too... LOL! Nature at it's finest, just gotta find it. Good luck! Caylan.S.
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I really prefer the san fancisco variety to the infernalis myself, are they readily available as well? Having a hard time finding anything on them, and thats rare for me lol. Perhaps I should join the thamnophis forum now... I like too many things!!! Caylan.S.

As it has already been said, San Francisco garter snakes are the most endangered reptile on the planet, they are a federally protected species.

I don't know about availability in Canada, but anyone caught touching, killing or otherwise disturbing one in the US is committing a federal crime.

Not so long ago, a construction site in California got shut down, because a bulldozer ran over one.
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@Wayne.
Do you have any baby infernalis?
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Do you have any baby infernalis?

No, all baby garters are months away yet.
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No, all baby garters are months away yet.
I should have asked if you had any leftover from last season. What's a good size tank for a garter? We can take this to pm if necessary.
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Why not start a garter Q&A in the Thamnophis forum, so everyone can get something from it.
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Cause I am lazy today. It seriously takes a couple of days for me to start a thread. I will do it on lunch my break though.
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As it has already been said, San Francisco garter snakes are the most endangered reptile on the planet, they are a federally protected species.

I don't know about availability in Canada, but anyone caught touching, killing or otherwise disturbing one in the US is committing a federal crime.

Not so long ago, a construction site in California got shut down, because a bulldozer ran over one.
Not sure how I missed all that... Wow what a shame... Thanks for the Info Wayne, I know how much it sucks to have to keep repeating everything lol. I'll still hold out hopes for one, probably still easier then an oenpelli python. Man I want a giant anteresia... Thanks again, Caylan.S.
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I woud just like to answer any future questions. It is a San Francisco Garter Snake and NO it is not photoshopped.
I had wondered. Thanks for posting about this.
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No problem. Many people have asked me so I thought I woud finnaly put a thread about it so I stop being asked! Not that it is a bad thing!
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I have some stuff, I will dig it up.

I am all for the conservation of that species.
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No, all baby garters are months away yet.
I hope you keep breeding them, I'd love to get one from you some day
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I hope you keep breeding them, I'd love to get one from you some day
I love those little guys, I won't give up on them any day soon.

Heck, I don't know too many other people who bulldozed their back yard just to make a wetland so the local garters would be happy and thrive.
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Thats wicked! The creek near me is only a 5 minute walk away, though my spots are around 30 minutes in... I would love to make my backyard into a creek like you have though, a little reservation for wildlife to enjoy. I envy what you've done with your life Wayne, I really do. Caylan.S.
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Well the creek has always been there, But the pond/wetland habitat is something I had done about a year and a half ago.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...p-habitat.html

I just linked the thread. And Thank you Caylan.
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