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GarterPython · 02-19-12, 11:03 PM

Many people have been asking what type of snake it is and I woud just like to answer any future questions. It is a San Francisco Garter Snake and NO it is not photoshopped. These are there real colours. If you are wondering how much they are I have seen them go from 100$-300$. A good breeder for him and any other Garter Snake is Scott Felzer's Garter Snakes, specializing in aberrant garters

BarelyBreathing · 02-19-12, 11:14 PM

That's pretty awesome.

GarterPython · 02-19-12, 11:17 PM

Yea they are very cool looking. If I can finally get a snake soon I will definitly get one of these guys.

BarelyBreathing · 02-19-12, 11:21 PM

If you do, please provide pictures.

Skumbo · 02-19-12, 11:22 PM

Those are awesome (i was one of the pm'ers!)

The only problem i see is that in researching, they seem to be one of the most endangered snakes in the US currently, so i'm not sure how readily available they are or if they're legal to sell in CA/out of CA.. (i cant find any on that linked breeders sight)

found this:

http://www.epa.gov/espp/factsheets/sf-garter-snake.pdf

also found a few forums with members saying they're illegal to own/sell out of the US, and I would assume extremely difficult to find outside of the US breeder wise. Looks like there were a few shipped out of the US and are bred from those, cant find where specifically, but its legal to own them in Canada and whatnot, but my hopes at one are null now haha

GarterPython · 02-19-12, 11:22 PM

Will do but probably not going to happen my parents are kinda hard to convince. My mom thinks they are gross and shud not be pets plus my dad doesn't really like them.

GarterPython · 02-19-12, 11:26 PM

Sorry, yea the breeder doesn't have any San Francisco's but he does have Neon Blue California Red-Sided Garter snakes witch look alot like them. Thats what I was thinking of on his site, sorry. And I was thinking of the Neon Blue California Red-Sided Garter Snake for the pricing to but the Neon Blue ones are also very pretty!

infernalis · 02-19-12, 11:31 PM

Infernalis!!

Skumbo · 02-19-12, 11:33 PM

Those are even cooler!

i was sad for a minute thinking i was going to have to tell you that the snake you want is endangered and you probably wont find one..

Those blue sided's are on "the list" now i guess. oh dear.. more lists..

infernalis · 02-19-12, 11:36 PM

I have been keeping Infernalis' now for about the last six years.

If you can't guess, They are my favourite Thamnophis species.

BTW, they have attitude. Not a handling friendly snake at all.

GarterPython · 02-19-12, 11:38 PM

Now everybody knows were wayne got the name Infernais. I should have just called them Infernalis Garter Snakes in my post were I was explaining that I got it mixed up. It would have been alot easier than putting Neon Blue California Red Sided Garter Snake two different times.

GarterPython · 02-19-12, 11:41 PM

Infernalis thanks for that. I didn't know that they were mean in all the research ive done on them!

BTW Is it easy to get them to be okay to be handled or are they pretty hard to calm down enough to handle quite a bit.

theapexgerman · 02-19-12, 11:42 PM

I've seen a few wild garters snake before around my place they always try to bite me lol if I pick them up

GarterPython · 02-19-12, 11:50 PM

Yea I find ribbon snakes around here sometimes and when you try and pick them up they will bite you but once they bite you and you hold them for a while. They seem to realize that you are not going to hurt them and they stop trying to bite you. Also at least there bites aren't too bad!

theapexgerman · 02-19-12, 11:52 PM

just feels like a little pinch but there pretty aggresive for such a small snake