Why waste money on heat lamps?

[Snakefood]

Yes, it is beautiful there. I love to drive down the coast for vacation.

[lady_bug87]

Thanks I will remember that when I am digging a path through a ft of snow to get to the car

[Snakefood]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Thanks I will remember that when I am digging a path through a ft of snow to get to the car

Which is why you should be heading west!!!! We can still go to the lake in December if we want!!

[Gungirl]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Thanks I will remember that when I am digging a path through a ft of snow to get to the car

Snow is the best!! I love it and wish I had it year round!

[Snakefood]

Originally Posted by Gungirl

Snow is the best!! I love it and wish I had it year round!

I like it for about the first 5 days, then I just wish it would go away!! My husky dog sure loves it though!! It's the only time of year he acts spunky anymore (he's 12!!)

[ladyjustice33]

Originally Posted by NennaMeerkat

Texas isn't only hot but VERY VERY dry.

Not my part of Texas, lol, lots of humidity here in Southeast Texas!!!!

[red ink]

Originally Posted by bladeblaster

Its interesting the difference in keeping practices, almost no one uses glass tanks for snakes in the UK, sometimes lizards but even thats rare.

Infact it is most definately frowned upon to use glass tanks, as being far inferior to wooden vivariums.

Same in Oz mate... glass tanks for snakes are not used (well except for GTPs).

[youngster]

I love snow. Skiing is my 2nd favorite thing behind snakes. (obviously!)

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by youngster

I love snow. Skiing is my 2nd favorite thing behind snakes. (obviously!)

we have it 6 mos out of the year in some form.... powdery white, packing snow and snow sludge in no particular order

[ilovemypets1988]

i only got to page 2 before i had to say this.

there are many cases in which both methods (lamps and uth) are great for heating an enclosure and this i will elaborate on:

UTH are great for small to medium bodied snakes as they are cheap and give the basking temp required but should not be used for large bodied snakes due to a reaction that happens with the mat (i cant remember the name of the reaction but heres the explanation);

lets take a burmese python for example, due to the size and weight of the snake, the UTH will over heat and possibly cause a fire, (put a rock on 1 and u will see what i mean) the weight will cause the mat to constantly heat up until it either blows or starts to melt and catches fire, a UTH or heat mat (as its called in the uk) can easily get to 50 degrees celcius or 122 fahrenheit, ive even had 1 get to 72 celcius or 161.6 fahrenheit and thats without the weight on top which after i had done so, those temps nearly doubled, now imagine a snake laying on 1 that gets to that temp (should the thermostat fail).

Heat lamps are excellent for large bodied snakes such as boa`s and large pythons, partly for the reason above, but also because they are far cheaper than AHS`s (advanced heating systems) and they can supply the snake with a natural cycle if you have the right bulbs, infact, unless you have a snake with a coloured sight, then a red or ble bulb gives the right amount of heat but only gives off enough light to stimulate a "moonlighting" effect which will help the snakes natural cycle of diurnal and noturnal behaviour.

to be quite frank, as long as the snake is healthy, then theres no problem to the husbandry at all.

anyway thats my rant over and done with lol

[2006gt]

o/p: AGAIN SHOW YOUR SETUPS SO EVERYONE CAN BE PERFECT LIKE YOU MR. EXPERT YOU SHOULD HAVE PUBLISHED HUSBANDRY BOOKS/WEBSITES SINCE U KNOW EVERYTHING HAHAH SHOW US SOME PROOF YOU KNOW ALL THE sH** UR TALKING ABOUT!!!!1

[millertime89]

well that was a worthless post^
I read all 5 pages and there's some interesting ideas going on. As temps begin to drop here I haven't had any problems maintaining heat in my viv (glass 30x12x12) with a simple UTH. That said my room is in the basement and I usually have to seal the windows and run a space heater to keep just me comfy in the winter months. We'll see what I have to do to keep Nero happy and comfy. I'm thinking if I use a lamp hooked up to a timer to maintain my simulated day/night cycles shining on the tank, but not directly over the tank, it should maintain temps. I'll see what works and adjust accordingly.

[2006gt]

Originally Posted by millertime89

well that was a worthless post^
I read all 5 pages and there's some interesting ideas going on. As temps begin to drop here I haven't had any problems maintaining heat in my viv (glass 30x12x12) with a simple UTH. That said my room is in the basement and I usually have to seal the windows and run a space heater to keep just me comfy in the winter months. We'll see what I have to do to keep Nero happy and comfy. I'm thinking if I use a lamp hooked up to a timer to maintain my simulated day/night cycles shining on the tank, but not directly over the tank, it should maintain temps. I'll see what works and adjust accordingly.

i dont care if u think my post was worthless....it was about as worthless as the o/p's post... and you posting it was worthless haha i guess all three were worthless hahah

but if i were you i would use a che on a thermostat to heat your viv if u cant heat it well with the space heater, with me at least(this is my opinion not fact) i had better success with che's than bulbs on a glass tank with bps i have had perfect sheds(i mist more during this time). and held good ambient with a towel/shirt cover half the top or clear wrap

[bladeblaster]

Originally Posted by ilovemypets1988

i only got to page 2 before i had to say this.

there are many cases in which both methods (lamps and uth) are great for heating an enclosure and this i will elaborate on:

UTH are great for small to medium bodied snakes as they are cheap and give the basking temp required but should not be used for large bodied snakes due to a reaction that happens with the mat (i cant remember the name of the reaction but heres the explanation);

lets take a burmese python for example, due to the size and weight of the snake, the UTH will over heat and possibly cause a fire, (put a rock on 1 and u will see what i mean) the weight will cause the mat to constantly heat up until it either blows or starts to melt and catches fire, a UTH or heat mat (as its called in the uk) can easily get to 50 degrees celcius or 122 fahrenheit, ive even had 1 get to 72 celcius or 161.6 fahrenheit and thats without the weight on top which after i had done so, those temps nearly doubled, now imagine a snake laying on 1 that gets to that temp (should the thermostat fail).

Heat lamps are excellent for large bodied snakes such as boa`s and large pythons, partly for the reason above, but also because they are far cheaper than AHS`s (advanced heating systems) and they can supply the snake with a natural cycle if you have the right bulbs, infact, unless you have a snake with a coloured sight, then a red or ble bulb gives the right amount of heat but only gives off enough light to stimulate a "moonlighting" effect which will help the snakes natural cycle of diurnal and noturnal behaviour.

to be quite frank, as long as the snake is healthy, then theres no problem to the husbandry at all.

anyway thats my rant over and done with lol

Its called 'Thermal Blocking' which yes is a problem but only when mats are used incorrectly. Usually by people having mats inside the enclosure, and the snake can lie directly on the mat. It also happens when people use mats for UTH 'outside of the enclosure' and sit the enclosure directly on the mat. There should be an air gap between the mat and whatever it is heating, this is clear on the instructions for mats, and is important as it is this that prevents thermal blocking.

[takagari]

I leave my mats on the shelf etself and place the tank on top. essentially heating the air under the tank.
this gives the spot directly above, a warmer temp than the rest, but it does warm the whole bottom