Pine......is it safe?????

[Jenn_06]

i use kiln dried pin for my rats but dont know if i would use it for snakes. but i talked to a lot of rat breeders and they said they used it for years and never had a problem with it.

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by stephanbakir

So kiln dried pine is more or less safe?

The toxins are removed by kiln drying, it is safe.

Cedar on the other hand is aromatic, so Cedar is unsafe

Terpene is the volatile chemical produced by coniferous trees (Pine, Cedar, spruce) and much like Heptane have a very low boiling point, so when the lumber is kiln dried most lumber manufacturers distill the terpene as a secondary product to produce paint thinners and turpentine.

Wood alcohol (Methanol) is also a product produced by distilation during kiln drying of wood, commonly used to manufacture Sterno "canned heat"

Trivia - The aroma and flavor of hops, highly desirable in some beers, comes from terpenes.

[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

Originally Posted by infernalis

I will give more details later.

Please do, i am interested... Ive always heard to stay away from pine... I dont use loose substrate anyways but i knew to stay away from pine and cedar if i did. Learn something new every day.

[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

Originally Posted by infernalis

The toxins are removed by kiln drying, it is safe.

Cedar on the other hand is aromatic, so Cedar is unsafe

Terpene is the volatile chemical produced by coniferous trees (Pine, Cedar, spruce) and much like Heptane have a very low boiling point, so when the lumber is kiln dried most lumber manufacturers distill the terpene as a secondary product to produce paint thinners and turpentine.

Wood alcohol (Methanol) is also a product produced by distilation during kiln drying of wood, commonly used to manufacture Sterno "canned heat"

Trivia - The aroma and flavor of hops, highly desirable in some beers, comes from terpenes.

I just read this after my last post. "lumber manufacturers distill the terpene as a secondary product to produce paint thinners and turpentine." I knew they did t his but i didnt know that the product came from kiln drying chipped pieces of pine. They really do use every resource. Good to know, i feel like ive been let in on a secret hahah im willing to bet most snake owners dont know that pine is actully safe. Thanks for the heads up.

[infernalis]

Originally Posted by KD35WIN.AS.ONE

I knew they did t his but i didnt know that the product came from kiln drying chipped pieces of pine. .

The process is performed before shredding, these are scrap 2x4 boards that are too warped to sell as building lumber.

[KD35WIN.AS.ONE]

Originally Posted by infernalis

The process is performed before shredding, these are scrap 2x4 boards that are too warped to sell as building lumber.

oh ok, what exactly is kiln drying? like a Burner/Smoke dryer? or just a process? You have knowledge in many fields, i aspire to do the same everyday. Wayne i got a question what made you get into Garter snakes instead of any other species?