getting nile vrs a sav

Freebody · 08-07-09, 10:17 AM

i got a few questions about the nile monitor i have always wanted a nile monitor i like everything big

and they are in my opinion the best looking 100% but i do like the savs as well they are very cool it just i want a nile and once i buy one ill never get both and never get rid of it so 15-20 years it will be so educated decision is needed and im leaning toward the cage size for salv's so my room i got can house my retics on 1 side and the salv on the other or i'll have to just put a nile in it and move my retics into living room or somthing later lol.i know the diff in both species just not how bad are nile realy and how much more food do they consume at full grown really over double?i have been in contact with a couple that are like puppy dogs when i was a kid but i have seen demonic ones as well from diff owners so is that the owner or just some are just nasty and like it says leave it to professional handlers with first aid kit in hand lol and all the savs i have ever seen are like starving kittens with scales so i want a nice tame monitor but im a real good owner with plenty of pacience and experiece but Niles i read are a league of its own is this true?thx so much dave

sassamagoo · 08-07-09, 11:49 AM

Wow, I know nothing about what you are asking, but I just have to say: Do you know how to use punctuation at all? That was almost 1 entire run-on sentence! Sorry, its just hard to even understand what you are talking about or asking when you use no periods or commas or anything really.

Hope someone who knows more about monitors can help you out.... if they understand what you said.

Good luck,
Sass

Will0W783 · 08-07-09, 01:55 PM

Lol. I have to agree with you Sass. Freebody, I've never kept monitors, but I was looking into it for a while. They get BIG- like, Iguana big. Therefore I would imagine you would need a 100-gallon tank or 8'x4' enclosure for an adult. I would say unless you have a pretty big room you will have trouble housing retics and a monitor in the same one.

Freebody · 08-07-09, 06:44 PM

im basically asking are some nile monitors just untamable, Because i would hate go through all the extra stuff like move my snakes out of the room and to get the nile to find its just crazy and wont tame cause it would be so much easier to get the salv and economical. i think ill go with the sav keep on the safe side.
Thx anyways gl all

Smilts · 08-07-09, 07:34 PM

I dont know much about either one but, from what I've read would start with a Sav!!

infernalis · 12-28-09, 03:32 PM

Sorry I took so long.....

Nile monitors are very cranky, and seldom "tamable", Here in New York state (I live in the boondocks with a 40 acre yard, so it's not a city rule) it is illegal to keep a Nile without a permit.

Savannah's on the other hand are far more docile and GENERALLY easy to work with.

A Nile would be solely a "display" animal, so you would need a really large cage to keep it healthy and comfortable.

Even a Savannah it is recommended that the cage be 8 feet wide X 4 feet deep with lots of dirt for the lizard to burrow in.

It would be almost cruel to keep a Nile in anything less than that, I would be more inclined to keep a Nile in a 12x12 room all it's own.

I know the laws in Canada are different, but in the end, it's the welfare of the animal that matters most, and if you are scared, or upset with your pet, it's more likely to receive less than optimal care.

Lastly, it's a lot easier to place a Sav in a new home if needed.

Good luck with this, no matter what direction you go.

siz · 12-29-09, 09:25 AM

Infernalis pretty much said it, Niles need a very large space, can be very very aggressive, and I know several people who have been unable to tame them. Definitely NOT something I would recommend for someone new to monitors. Savs can be much more tame but do stilol need a large enclosure with lots of burrowing room
Tanks are never big enough for a monitor unless you get a custom one. A tank simply will not be good enough. Savs also require humidity, a custom build enclosure is the way to go for any monitor species IMO.

These are very good points

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but in the end, it's the welfare of the animal that matters most, and if you are scared, or upset with your pet, it's more likely to receive less than optimal care.

Lastly, it's a lot easier to place a Sav in a new home if needed.

Good luck

siz · 12-29-09, 09:26 AM

Double post sorry

Will0W783 · 12-29-09, 10:17 AM

Infernalis, that pic of you petting your Sav is sooo cute. He looks like he is really enjoying the chin rub!

marvelfreak · 12-29-09, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by infernalis

Sorry I took so long.....

Nile monitors are very cranky, and seldom "tamable", Here in New York state (I live in the boondocks with a 40 acre yard, so it's not a city rule) it is illegal to keep a Nile without a permit.

Savannah's on the other hand are far more docile and GENERALLY easy to work with.

A Nile would be solely a "display" animal, so you would need a really large cage to keep it healthy and comfortable.

Even a Savannah it is recommended that the cage be 8 feet wide X 4 feet deep with lots of dirt for the lizard to burrow in.

It would be almost cruel to keep a Nile in anything less than that, I would be more inclined to keep a Nile in a 12x12 room all it's own.

I know the laws in Canada are different, but in the end, it's the welfare of the animal that matters most, and if you are scared, or upset with your pet, it's more likely to receive less than optimal care.

Lastly, it's a lot easier to place a Sav in a new home if needed.

Good luck with this, no matter what direction you go.

I use to have two savs until i trade them . They were the mean sh-ts. One broke my friends finger with it's tail. It would use it tail like a club. The other one bit and sh-t everytime i pick it up. They were both full grown when i got them an just insanely mean. I learnd alot. I had a water monitor that would eat out of my hand. He was so tame he had free run of the house when i was the only one home. Nicest temperment. Never had a nile. Good luck with whatever you choose and hope it turns out to be freindly.

infernalis · 12-29-09, 02:24 PM

The key to having a good monitor experience is to purchase a hatchling, raise and nurture it and be part of the animals daily life.

emseeKAY · 12-29-09, 05:25 PM

guess they can be kinda like puppies that way eh? id love to get one but theyre far too big for me atm...

i should buy a zoo lol :P

infernalis · 12-29-09, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by emseeKAY

guess they can be kinda like puppies that way eh? id love to get one but theyre far too big for me atm...

i should buy a zoo lol :P

Once the obsession gets it's hooks into you, your home will gradually morph into a zoo anyways....