Evil mice, or doing the right thing?

[Quervo]

Was fun debating, but this obviously wont go anywhere

debating ... is that what you call it ... I'd hate to see you get insulting then.
Personally, I think you owe J.J. an apology for the way you came down on her for not thinking like you do .... but that's just MY opinion.

[V.aw]

what the hell are you talking about?
insulting? I stated my opinion, i was bashed for it. it seems as if nobody is allowed to disagree on these boards. i said, "i respect her opinions" and left it at that.

If anyone took the time to read, that i dont agree with feeding a pet to a pet, not a feeder to a pet, none of this would have been blown up! there IS a big difference.
my whole point is to be responsible when breeding your feeders, and how you dispose of them. without them you wouldnt have your healthy snake or lizard. Jeez, dont be so damn sensitive.
and if what you want is an apology, fine. I don't mind apologizing.

I apologize if i offended anyone with my views, I better go make sure my pinkies are ok, as i have no life and all .


PS
dont take things so personally, iam entitled to my opinion too. ** I never said JJ was morbid, i said i felt the whole, "iam gonna keep mice as pets then feed em' to my reptile when iam bored of them" was morbid, so sorry for any confusion.

[V.aw]

Originally posted by Grant vg
V. aw,

I just want to commend you on that last post.
I really like when ppl have such a strong opinion on an issue and still be able to accept a stalemate and move on to another great debate! Weve had many discussions reminding me of this one has which turned out for the worst.

Your awsome buddy!

But really, C'mon, i got to know somethin...
Were you not cringing at the teeth when u were reading my anole recipe? LOL'


Grant vg

hehe not really, you know why? it was how you said it.. You werent like " i threw the dumb anole into the pot, but it jumped out half melted crawling on the floor "LOL" and it was funy then i stupid thing in with my snake" just look at the differences.. I dunno JJ's original post just annoyed me. I keep monitors, and many of them, you dont think i go through a mouse or two? I misunderstood his post i guess. and everyone took it to heart and decided to attack me.

I don't know you, but iam not sure if iam reading sarcasm, or you are actually commending me for ending this dumb thread.

[V.aw]

Originally posted by V.aw
the way "JJ" posted these animals were not meant for feeders, they were pets.. Unless ive read this wrong.


my whole point is what ever happened to the emotional attachment to a pet?

(kind of like, would you feed your defenseless corn snake to a kingsnake because its higher on the food chain??)

I think people skim over posts.. This is my proof, as i admited to being wrong on what i read and people continued to blab saying i have no life, heheh

AS I SAID on the post previous to this one (god this is stupid) Rodents as pure feeders is ok in MY eyes (not yours this is IMO) but feeding a PET because you are bored of it to your pet higher on the food chain is MORBID! not using feeders as a whole.(refer to my post about seeing kids come to my store bored of their hamsters &gerbils, not caring if it becomes a meal) It just brought back memories, thats all.


I guess i TOO neglected to read deeper and jumped to conclusions, so lets end this garble shall we?

[J.J.]

OH MY FRICKEN GOSH! All I wanted to know is why the mom killed her babies, and in the end, Im getting arguements and apologizes and people being cocky to other people. I found out what i needed to know. I started most of this though, like 99% of it, so I guess it is my fault that this all started. So i am sorry to everyone but i just had to express my feelings about what V.aw said. I love you all, I really do! But sometimes I just cant keep my feelings in, it runs in the family! lol, so V.aw I am sorry for not "keepin my kool" and shouting at you, but you have to understand, we eat cows, sharks eat us, snakes eat mice, mice eat grass, eventually everything eats eachother. Look at a hamburger sometime and then think that it used to be a living breathing cow. And then think that it was slaughtered (sp.) and killed JUST so it could wind up on your plate at McDonalds or burger King. Well, also, mice are already over populating!!!! Who cares if the snakes eat them?! if it werent for animals eating mice, there would probably be more mice than anything in the world. Just like rabbits and all other fast breeding animals. Why do you think states allow deer hunting? not just so we can get food, but so the population doesnt go hey wire! If the deer are going extinct or endangered then they will make it so that we cannot hunt until the population of deer flourishes. Well, thats all i have to say i guess. My apologizes again. Bye bye

[J.J.]

But i know, i know, you were just mad cause you dont like that we feed "pets to pets" But they arent pets. and i hate mice!

[J.J.]

So, leaving babies unattended with the mother, and being ignorant to possibilities that may arrise is humane?

What was I supposed to do?? Its there mother, she gave birth to them, so they are her babies, they arent mine to take care of. But nevermind, i dont want to argue again. Also, the one that had a punctured stomache, if thats what you wan to call it, I clenaed up and trew away as soon as i found it, ok.

[AymKing]

I agree no matter how it was killed it was once alive, but it's got to die somehow to be eaten. As far as mice in the wild there are snakes that find a nest and devour every last pink, then go for mom, some snakes if hungry enough won't stop once they find a mouse scent, moral of the story: mouse dies anyway. Since we have taken snakes out of their environment we must feed them, so I don't think it's cruel or inhumane to feed them rodents (regardlous of how some die whether they are frozen or whacked or just given to the snake live.) I have bred for my snakes, my snakes can't leave and hunt there own, I must do it for them. That's what my mice and rats and hamsters are for.

[lanalizard]

wooh! i dont believe in ANY WAY AT ALL that hamsters are meant as feeders in captivity.....any snake owner that i have talked to disagree that hamsters should be used as feeders.

[Them and Us]

oh the power of words.