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01-29-05, 05:52 PM
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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i believe aspen shavings are toxic are they not?
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01-29-05, 05:55 PM
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Location: Burlington, Vermont
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Many of the herps were in wire cages which may explain the cuts and nose rub....
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Wow?! Really??? That sucks. You mean the cage you would see a G. Pig in? If so, maybe you should write a letter to the editor Rikki and write a complaint bout that store...
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01-29-05, 06:08 PM
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Yeah some what like that, though the cage wire is old and rusty.... Horrible, do they really expect to sell the 10ft Burmese in the wire cage soon, i doubt it... They should take care of the reptiles regardless.... KILOS I have heard that before as well, not sure if its true.
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01-29-05, 11:15 PM
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Location: ON,Canada
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No pine and ceder are toxic...
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01-29-05, 11:21 PM
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Thats it...
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01-30-05, 12:02 AM
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Join Date: Apr-2002
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
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any heat lamps or anything? if its really that bad you can always call spca or human society
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01-30-05, 12:14 AM
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Heat lamps yes on some cages, monitors had no hear sorce. Burm has two 60w bulbs un covered.
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01-30-05, 12:16 AM
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Location: Mississauga, Ontario
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so call, only takes two seconds
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01-30-05, 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Rikki
Made me want to buy them all....
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Sometimes I wonder if that isn't their ploy...
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Originally posted by CamHanna
That's a petshop my friend. Buy the pets and they buy more.
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Exactly. By 'saving' those few you are in turn supporting their cause and allowing more animals to be brought in to those conditions.
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01-30-05, 12:19 AM
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Location: Mississauga, Ontario
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Sometimes I wonder if that isn't their ploy...
Exactly. By 'saving' those few you are in turn supporting their cause and allowing more animals to be brought in to those conditions.
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agreed so I think the best thing you could do is get the place investigated, just keep calling and maybe you can get the herps to better conditions, i;m sure those conditions would qaulify for neglect or abuse no?
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01-30-05, 12:24 AM
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Location: Burlington, Vermont
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though the cage wire is old and rusty.... Horrible, do they really expect to sell the 10ft Burmese in the wire cage soon, i doubt it... They should take care of the reptiles regardless....
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I think you should report them Rikki. However I can't imagine a 10 foot anything in any type of cage unless its custom built.
Although I will have to admit, I do kinda find it odd noone else hasn't reported about 10 foot burms or larger pythons kept in such horrendious conditions. I am fairly certain, Rikki isn't the only herp hobbyist in this industry walking into this store, which the more I think about it, the more that it truely puzzles me that no other herper has questioned these conditions and spoken up??
I just find it odd noone in that area of the states has said anything about that store.
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Last edited by zero&stich; 01-30-05 at 12:28 AM..
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01-30-05, 12:29 AM
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They may have, who knows.... The burm is in a wood cage with wire..... Ill call monday once they open and talk to the owner...
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01-30-05, 12:32 AM
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Location: Burlington, Vermont
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They may have, who knows.... The burm is in a wood cage with wire..... Ill call monday once they open and talk to the owner...
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Awesome! Maybe write a little thingy in a letter to the editor in your local newspaper and shut that craphole down.
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01-30-05, 12:38 AM
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I could threaten to post an ad in the newspaper with a few extra bucks, thats a good idea ill call Monday when they open again. 
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01-30-05, 01:53 AM
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Join Date: Apr-2004
Location: Timmins On
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If i were you i would definatly try to do something about this and not give up till something changes. I own a little reptile store and bust my a$$ everyday to make sure my animals are in the best conditions and it really sucks to have idiots like that screw it up for everyone and the animals.
Im taking a humaine officer course because i cant handle seeing this type of stuff happen without doing anything about it and the humaine society here is in great need of staff. trust me once im qualified ill be out in full force.......sorry it just freaks me out hearing and seeing this kind of stuff.
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"It doesnt really matter is they dont have the space, they knew what they were ordering from the start."
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""Take in account many stores special order animals everyday for people then decide they don't want it due to ill research. Unfortunatly it happans. Maybe that is what happaned with the savs, since they are a popular monitor for a pet. ""
I dont think cancelled special orders are an excuse to have any type of animal house in improper conditions and not cared for properly. When i do a special order i make sure to take a non refundable deposit to ensure that they come back and i also make sure to have the proper enclosure just in case it happens. These pricks couldnt care less about the animals they have in there store and are only there for the money and that is the number one reason in MO why there are so many sick and mis-cared for animals around. wow if i were open just for he money i wouldve been closed a long time ago
sorry for rambling.........Lucas
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