Animal-Human Hybrids Spark Controversy

[sneaky_boa]

Thank you concept3!!!!!

[latazyo]

Originally posted by sneaky_boa
ok...when you have an infection I suggest you not seek out drug treatment as all drugs have been tested on animals. Also don't use cosmetics, drink milk, eat anything with preservatives, paint your walls, have diagnostics for ANY health condition performed, eat any crops which have had pesticides used on them, get braces (all materials were tested on animals), wear any clothing which has been dyed or otherwise processed in any way...the list goes on and on.

Everything fit for human use, consumption and prtability has been tested on animals in one way or another so you best get to living naked in the woods on your own, farming for your self cause unless you do, you are kind of being a hypocrite!

haha...OWNED
well put sneaky_boa...some people don't understand science, don't let it get under your skin

[Shad0w]

sneaky_boa

Thank you for your input, I totally agree with everything you said!
And I for one back the work you guys do 100%.

Like I said in one of my earlier posts... all this bashing is done out of fear of the unknown... darn medevil way of thinking no?

concept3, Im with ya all the way!

[sneaky_boa]

I just get very frustrated...being that I live and work to make the lives of the sick better.

It's also worthy to note that there are VERY strict guidelines which are tightly enforced regarding the well being and treatment of these lab animals. Under no circumstances are they to experience any level of pain for any amount of time...analgesics are ubiqitously used for all procedures involving more than an injection or taking a blood sample. These animals are precious to us and our research and we realize their use is a privlige...not a right. They are housed in top notch facitlities that make our houses look like crap! I could go on...but I think I got the point across

[ReneeB]

All I am saying is that nature is going to kick us in the butt really big and really soon for destroying the planet "for the betterment of mankind"
Nature has always balanced itself out.. it's just a matter of time..Natural population control..

Originally posted by Shad0w
ReneeB,

U asume we have had higher than usual numbers of hurricanes and earthquakes? All caused by man? A more likely suggestion would be that weather patterns and tactonic activity is cyclical... over hundreds... thousands even hundreds of thousands of years... you are looking in terms of your life span... which is short term, in comparison to long term cyclical weather / geological changes...(you get your active / inactive periods) (hint, take a peak at what the earth look like millions of years ago)

Can you prove that any of what happened over the last year was due to man's influence? I would respectfully suggest you and anyone else cannot. Its all hearsay...

Woops.. so much for me just sitting back and watchin

[Shad0w]

ReneeB,

Do you speak on the topic as an expert?
How will "NATURE" kick us in the butt?
How do you know it will be soon?
Can you provide evidence or proof?
Im just trying to get a better idea where your thoughts are comming from.

[ReneeB]

Just my opinion based on things I've read in my lifetime. As

Originally posted by varanus69
...is humans are the only species that has the capability to over populate an area on a continued basis ( rabbits over populate, than there is not enough food and there is a die off or less reproduction for example.)...

Humans do not control their population naturally. Nature will do it for us, as it does with every other species like it always has. I think it's called the circle of life..

Originally posted by Shad0w
ReneeB,

Do you speak on the topic as an expert?
How will "NATURE" kick us in the butt?
How do you know it will be soon?
Can you provide evidence or proof?
Im just trying to get a better idea where your thoughts are comming from.

[Slannesh]

Couple of comments here.

First off for everyone wishing for faster and cheaper drugs... does the term Vioxx ring a bell? Fast and cheap. Oh yeah, and it also kills people. Opps. Sorry we missed that.

There's a REASON it takes years for the FDA and similar agencies around the world to approve new drugs for human use. New drugs commonly have unexpected side effects that take years to show up. Not to mention that pharmecutical companies like all companies are in business to make money. They made Viagra before they cured cancer, why? There's more money in it.

Now unlike sneaky boa i'm not a PhD student but I do have a very basic understanding of how this sort of thing works as I had to become FDA certified to work on one of the support contracts I used to so I have at least a basic grasp of how all that works. My girlfriend works for a biomedical research company, specifically developing new immunosuppresive drugs for organ transplants. So while I don't get all the science behind it I again at least understand the basic concepts and can see first hand how much work goes into this sort of thing before getting any tangible results.

There's no denying that we've done a lot to bugger up mother earth. But there's also no denying that we have come so much further than any other species that we're currently aware of either, especially in the last 100 years or so. Hell, as I type this i'm using a computer that's thousands of times more powerful than the ones they used to land people on the moon just 36 years ago.

Since the dawn of human civilization there have always been haves and have nots and it's a trend I really don't see ending. Is it fair? Nope, but it's the reality of how things work and probably the end result of being self aware. Some people have more drive to be better than others. Add to that some lucky breaks and being born in the right country at the right time and you get to be a mover and shaker. If not things end up not so pretty.

And Rikki. Are you really gonna start with that PETA BS again man? I'd have thought you learned your lesson the first time

[Darren179]

I have to agree with renee here. If you have a perfect eco system but lets say there is a perfect eco system but a main predator is whiped out, almost. A smaller herbivore increases in population because there is a less number of predators. Eventually the plant life will not be able to sustain the increased number of animals eating it. If the predators recover then this problem solves itself. If it doesnt eventually the food supply will run out and the herbivores will fall back to a substainable number. Thats mother nature taking its coarse. The earth cannot keep up with the rapid acceleration of the human population. Eventually like it or not we will be balanced out. The earth will be here well after us.

[Slannesh]

Unless of course the herbivores can tinker with the plants to make them grow faster.... play with the water so it's cleaner and has a way to remove their waste and expand into other areas that were previously uninhabited....

you get my point I assume?

[ReneeB]

Darren179, Thank you.

Slannesh, I see your point, but we as humans populate to quickly even for that..

[Shad0w]

ReneeB,

How can you possibly say that we populate too quickly period?

Again, are you basing that statement on experience / expertise, or again just a personal opinion?

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

BOB:

She is right, we are a busy species.

LOL,

Tony

[Shad0w]

Oh we are a busy species, no doubt, but how can she comment that progress / research cannot keep up with our proliferation? Just wanna understand what her field of expertise is to make such a statement as opposed to voicing an opinion..

[BoidKeeper]

We are our own worst enemy and we just keep proving it every day. We will be the ones responsible for our down fall.
Cheers,
Trevor