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Old 01-27-05, 09:44 AM   #1
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Animal-Human Hybrids Spark Controversy

Okay so what you guys think of this?

Im not too sure what to think but the idea of being able to grow spare parts for humans would be an amazing leap in medicine.

Animal-Human Hybrids Spark Controversy
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Old 01-27-05, 10:05 AM   #2
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wow, that is fascinating, I can't believe the things they can do with genetics and cell biology

hopefully they are able to find a way to safely and ethically "farm" organs
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Old 01-27-05, 10:27 AM   #3
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If they just left this at trying to create new viable organs, great, man we have come a long way.
But why in world would you want to create a human/rabbit or anything else. What would this prove? What would happen if this creature where to die being it couldnt live on human/animal parts, would you be charged with murder? I dont get what goes through scientists minds, enough is enough. They dont know when to stop. I find this all extremely facinating, but to some extent. This kind of crap needs to stop in my opinion.
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Old 01-27-05, 11:36 AM   #4
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we also used to think that there's no need to study space
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I don't think we should create a human but giving people who need spare parts/organs is a good idea, buti f we ever created a human I'd be afaird....very very afraid
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I personally don't think they should go nearly as far as they have in human research, theres to many of us as it is why try to keep more of us around. if these "scientist " want to do something creative and worth while they should take the piebald ball gene and put it into a boa or put the pattern of a killer bee ball on a tegu.. now that would be interesting stuff.
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Yeah, where will it stop, before people was worried about artificial inteligence taking over, now what would happen if they create other animals with human brains, if they was capable of making rats think like humans, that could get dangerous!

The "And at Stanford University in California an experiment might be done later this year to create mice with human brains. " sounds strange.

creating sub humans is just wrong! But as has been said before, the creating organs, for transplants is good, if only they could stop there.
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Old 01-27-05, 01:25 PM   #8
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Wow, I heard about this a while back on some shows. Interesting stuff indeed.

I could use a new pair of cheetah legs, since my recent surgeries just can' t run like I used too

LOL

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Old 01-27-05, 01:28 PM   #9
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varanus69,

Respectfully, that's an incredibally shallow thing to say...

Tell that to the parents of a 2 year old child that needs a heart transplant due to some form of heart failure...

And I hope that one day you dont find yourself in need of an organ due to disease or accident... should we let ALL sick people just die because there are too many of us around?

I really hope your idea of putting genes into snakes to produce morphs over research to help humans is a joke... /me shakes his head

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Well the "spare parts" effort behind this is not all positives. What happens when this is done, what happens when we reach the next step and we can eliminate death altogether? Nobody wants to die or to see others die. The thing is its a fact of life with life comes death. There isn't and shouldn't be a way around it. As far as subspecies where do you draw the line between A human and an animal? at what point does animal abuse become domestic violence? We are still dealing with pro and anti abortion groups who have been arguing it for years, at which point is it murder? I just dont think civilization is ready to bring in part humans. Not to mention the morals and ethics of the whole thing but that might touch into the politcal,religous stuff.
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Old 01-27-05, 01:44 PM   #11
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Okay so why dont we stop searching for cures for cancer? Why dont we just stop searching for cures for HIV and other diseases?

IN fact.. next time you are very sick... why go see a doctor? Let nature take its course

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But on the flip side of that, how about tomorrow a cure for EVERYTHING exsists? That would also be the short trip to our own extinction in a way.

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Old 01-27-05, 01:58 PM   #13
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I know what you are saying Marisa, but honestly.. I think our extinction is in the cards one way or another anyhow.. just like all spieces... The earth will not be habitable forever...

Seriously... how can one be a compassionate human and turn your back to someone in need and not try anything in your power to help...

I mean cummon, how many of you take your sick herps to a vet? How many would consider it irresponsible/neglect to not help a sick animal?

It amazes me how quickly we will scream animal abuse / neglect, yet we are so quick to turn away from our own species

I really think allot of the rationale here is based out of fear of the unknown (allot of "what if's"), something I really dont like.. its such a midevil way of thinking.

Well, you guys know how I feel.. Im gunna sit back and watch how this debate hashes out

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Old 01-27-05, 02:26 PM   #14
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Nature will do it's job.. it's already paying us back for screwing up the planet so much.. didn't anyone notice the odd amount of hurricanes that hit the southern states, and the more frequent earthquakes? I'm sure everyone noticed the tsunami that happened over the holiday season (if not, are you living under a rock?). Let them mess with nature.. it'll turn around an bit them in the butt. It always does..
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Old 01-27-05, 02:31 PM   #15
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ReneeB,

U asume we have had higher than usual numbers of hurricanes and earthquakes? All caused by man? A more likely suggestion would be that weather patterns and tactonic activity is cyclical... over hundreds... thousands even hundreds of thousands of years... you are looking in terms of your life span... which is short term, in comparison to long term cyclical weather / geological changes...(you get your active / inactive periods) (hint, take a peak at what the earth look like millions of years ago)

Can you prove that any of what happened over the last year was due to man's influence? I would respectfully suggest you and anyone else cannot. Its all hearsay...

Woops.. so much for me just sitting back and watchin

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