Anyone working on a project

meow_mix450 · 12-29-04, 11:43 AM

Hey

I was wondering if anyone is working on a project? If you dont mind telling us about what your doing and hows it turning out that would be great! Everyone knows that im working on Nosy be's so I wont repeat my self. The chameleon area seems kinda slow so I thought I could give it a boost

Meow

Manitoban Herps · 12-29-04, 12:35 PM

I keep coming back here too see if those panthers of yours hatched out! No projects for chameleons here, I am slowly looking around for a female veiled though.

Bartman · 12-29-04, 01:31 PM

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I am slowly looking around for a female veiled though.

Hey I was thinking of that too

But I think ill wait until next year

Manitoban Herps · 12-29-04, 05:41 PM

Me too, not much time left in this year anyways!

Trace · 12-30-04, 08:44 AM

Well what we have going on for the early to middle part of this year is

B. fischeri(unknown sub-species) we have 1.1 adults that are gonna be put under breeding conditions soon. 1 clutch from this female should start hatching around spring

B. f. multituberculatum the 1.1 adults will are not gonna be bred. We have 2 clutch's from differant bloodlines due to hatch anytime. We are hoping for a good hatch rate

Ch.(T) ellioti. this will be a small clutch that is due anytime

CH.(T)j. zantholophus one female is just approaching adult and
the other is still a few month's away. The older female will be mated in the next couple of month's

F. lateralis major is gravid again and we still have 4.2 babies from her first clutch. The babies are growing nicely and should be breedable by summer

R. nchisiensis will probably be put under breeding conditions again. We have 1 baby crawling around.

R. uluguruensis one female is due to lay anytime. There is also a clutch that should be hatching anytime

R. brevicaudatus we finally introduced our sub-adult CB male to his two sub-adult WC females. I am thinking we will start seeing eggs by late spring early summer.

Then there is always the calyptratus. There are a few clutch's that will be hatching over the next 3 or 4 month's.

I guess thats abouty it for us.

Carl

meow_mix450 · 12-30-04, 01:46 PM

Thats great to hear! Seems liek your hands are full lol. Manitoban Herps I'm just as excited as you are lol

Meow

Manitoban Herps · 12-30-04, 05:40 PM

LOL, Carl I knew you had great experience with Chams but I didn't know you had so many

Meow:
I hope fore the best for your little eggies

CarlC · 12-30-04, 08:16 PM

Thats nothing. I only listed what Trace and I have plans on breeding early in the year.

Carl

AstroZombie · 12-31-04, 03:00 PM

I am working with Bradypodion fischeri tavetanum.

Female laid 11 eggs on April 01/04. Humidity kept at 80% and temps between 21-24 C. The eggs were not disturbed (as I had bad results removing eggs previously) until the end of August, then removed to a deli cup filled with vermiculite and incubated at 76-80F. Temps were allowed to fluctuate and misting periods were increased in October and November. Temps began to drop in November to 74-76F a few weeks prior to hatching. Hatching began Nov. 21/04. Of the 11 eggs, 8 hatched without problem, 3 were found fully developed and had attempted hatching only to be found lifeless inside the egg hours later. Two of the smaller hatchlings were not thriving and expired within 2 weeks of hatch date. The six surviving chameleons are growing like weeds, and at five weeks the largest o the group has formed rostral buds and has some amazing colours developing around his casque. This little man has also started gaping at everyone else and has been promoted to his own enclosure, while the others are still housed in pairs. Five weeks now and almost triple hatching size. WOW

Those are all my observations with hatching this clutch, the previous clutch laid back in October 2003 yeilded only 6 eggs which were damaged during removal from the roots of live plants in the enclosure and failed to hatch.

I will be obtaining a second adult female later next week

Anyone else have notes on these guys? Other than what info I can find at ADCHAM ?

:skull: Jenn:skull:

CarlC · 12-31-04, 03:49 PM

I hatched many from this species about 5 or 6 years ago. They are the best! Mine came out of the egg with an attitude.

Myself and some German friends were getting 100% hatch rates using temps that varied from 70-72 during the day and nightemps of 65-68. Average hatch time was 6 months. The babies reached maturity and bred between 9 and 12 months.

Tavetanum is no longer part of the fischeri complex, it has been given its own species status now. It is called B. t. tavetanum. Recently a sub-species was named. It is called B. t. boehmei. The nominate form is what is found in the trade. It is mostly collected from the Arusha area in Tanzania. The sub-species is only found around the Taita Hills in Kenya.

Carl

AstroZombie · 12-31-04, 04:43 PM

Thank you for the update on species status, Carl C !

I guess they shouldn't be refered to as Dwarf Fischer's then?
I've also seen them refered to as Taveta blue chameleons.

I love these small guys. My bathrooms (high humidity, low traffic and just the right temp) are now designated tavetanum rooms. Crested geckos own just about every other room in the house, except the bedroom, which is the designated snake room

:skull: Jenn:skull:

Trace · 01-01-05, 12:25 PM

I had a blast working with them! Just alittle to prolific for me. The babies are not the easiest to get rid of with the cost of wc's being so low.

Bathrooms work great for them. They are really dependant on high humidity. If the humidity gets to low they drink like fish.

Carl

galad · 01-03-05, 11:41 AM

yea thats alot of chameleons. Puts my two cham project to shame. lol
I currently have a year and 1 month old male nosy be, and a sub-adult female that should be ready to breed in 5 or six months.

Meow this is my first time attempting to breed. What do you do to get your nosy bes ready for breeding? I have lowered the light and temps abit, and will put them back up when spring comes> Will this start b the breeding process?
Whats a good breeding weight for a female nosy be? Still need to aquire a scale/
Where about do you live, if all goes well we can do some trading to expand our bloodlines, that is if your down with that.
I can assure my chams get nothing but the best care and so will the babies. I spend over two hours everyday with them.
How many eggs can i expect on my first clutch somewhere around 15 to 20??

peace

ws

meow_mix450 · 01-03-05, 03:16 PM

Well I didnt purposly breed them, my male entered into my females enclosure because its 1(of that made sense). Females can breed at 6 months of age but its best to wait till there 8 months or a year old. A way to get them ready is to make sure there both healthly and nothing is wrong with them. I personally didn't find the temps to be a problem(No need to lower or raise temps).

All females come in different shapes and sizes. If she is healthly and active there should be no problems for her to breed. The weight is not really a problem, unless you want to know if shes producing eggs. Then you just weigh her every other day. I lost my weight sheet somewhere in my room, but if I find it I'll let you know.

I live in ontario and it looks like you live in winnipeg which can be a problem(shipping). But will see how it goes.

First clutchs can vary. Depending on how much you feed your female. Mine had 32 which did suprise me. The number of eggs are very high. Another thing to take to consideration is that she will probly have another clutch after you have bred her with the male. So around 3 months of when she has mated she would have had 2 clutchs. This has happened with me and some other people.

I think I have answered most of your question. My eggs should be due sometime this month

Meow

galad · 01-03-05, 10:04 PM

Yea its awsome how they can store sperm like that, talk about survival artists. SHipping shouldnt be to hard to manage it would only be a three or four hour flight at max.
I prob wont have babies for about a year anyhow, lots of time to figure stuff like that out.

thank for the info

peace

ws