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Old 12-27-04, 10:31 AM   #121
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MATT K:

I understand very well, but why ask without some research first.
Bringing it up another fashion as I stated, have your fun Matt.
You can' t let it go, can' t be mature and see to end it already.

I went nuetral to you offered an olive leave in polite manner and you still keep going.

It' s just weak and your proving it every time you mention it. I at least need to clarify it but you bring it out so I have I asked to stop but you won' t.

Tony Pharosx
Okay Tony, Since you obviously can't get it through your head and you can't let it go i'll make it as clear as possible this one last time.. I'm really not sure how you think I was bringing it up in another fashion, my reply was simply pointing out that:

I WAS ASKING YOU A QUESTION.. I ASKED YOU TO CORRECT ME IF I WAS WRONG!!! I WAS NOT ASSUMING ANYTHING...

I don't see why you needed to reply to me twice asking me to drop the issue...

Consider it dropped now, Im honestly done with this whole issue. I accept your 'olive leaf'...

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Old 12-27-04, 11:08 AM   #122
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I know why you the Trevor attitude came at me, and in short its because of Ken. Sorry Trevor I was not much help but you wanted me to do something I felt was wrong. You replied to this:
Tony now you really have hit a new low. This is an out right lie. I never ever asked you to take my side in anything against anyone. Man oh man I wish I had saved all my conversations with you. If you did I wish you would post them so people could see what I said to you about my deal with Ken. You are so full of ****. My deal with Ken is over and done. It was you that contacted me when you saw my BOI post and asked me about it. Not that it was any of your dam business anyway. All I told you was that I never should have delt with him and that I wouldn't deal with him again.
What you tried to do here is an out right lie and you hit a new low. You really are showing your true colours buddy. You've gotten so pathetic that you are trying to twist anything anyone has ever said to you to try and make yourself not look like a complet idiot. You just keep digging deeper and deeper. You could have resolved this a long time ago.
You had no buisness mentioning Ken's name or my deal with him what so ever. It doesn't concer you at all. Ken has made an attempt to resolve it and I have no ill feelings towards him and it's over. It's none of your dam business and you would be the last person I would ever ask to take up for me, not that I would ever need someone to take my side in anything because I don't have any problems with anyone nor do they with me.
First you tried to say I was bad mouthing MattK to you and when that backfired you made up some lies about a deal between Ken and I. The truth is Tony you have nothing bad to say about me because you don't know anything about me. We never delt on anything and I've only had one deal I wasn't happy with. There is nothing you can say about me so you've resoted to telling lies. You are pathetic Tony. I won't stoop to your level Tony and try to say things about you. I don't have to try and sling mud at you inorder to make myself look good or you bad because those who know me know I'm honest and you make yourself look bad all on your own.
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Old 12-27-04, 11:34 AM   #123
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I think you have proven what you are actually about in all this Bullshit.

You are the one who started talking about crap that did not matter in your threads to cover what actually was happening.

Actually Tony I respect alot of my customers out there and consider them friends and have bent over backwards to help them. I might add especially in your case to help you out. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and have always treated people with respect. Unlike you I think respect is earned and not just expected due to how many posts you have made and I do not make stuff up so people will respect me.

Maybe I should have copyrighted my ideas before telling you, you did not even know what a ghost or triple het was until I told you. You would not have even received many of the animals you have if I had not stepped in as people could not stand dealing with you as a customer. I always said Tony is not such a bad guy and stood up for you. You were like the sound of fingernails on a chalkboard and treated many people like they were crooks before you even knew them and played a bigshot in your business dealings.

You are a clean cut professional looking guy but it seems you have many issues in terms of what truth and honesty actually is, so I guess you really cannot judge a book by its cover.

Instead of being a man and admitting you might have stretched the truth a bit you have gone after everyone here. In my case it has really pissed me off as no one out there has helped you more than I have.

I hope you produce 100's of boas this year Tony like you did last year but alas there will be no pictures due to copyrights and product infringment, tidal waves, snow storms, locusts.

Good luck


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Old 12-27-04, 11:50 AM   #124
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Tony .........I could answer all the BS and dancing you just did in your reply to me ........ But since the judgement issue was the most repetitive Ill answer that .......

My judgement didnt come from anyone .....No rumors....No BS ....It came way before any of this .....Way before anyone thought negatively of you ........ I came to the conclusion all on my own from your own posts and the arrogant way you write ......plain and simple ..........I have voiced my opinion of you to several others in the past several months and was always told I was wrong "hes a good guy " and so on .....Its only been in the last couple months that people started to see what I saw long ago .........But for me 1st impressions are very important and good or bad I stand by my thoughts and feelings on people unless they do something to prove me wrong .........

You still seem to be defending your mistakes and actions instead of owning up to them and thats a shame ..............Still on the wrong path I see ......... Accusing people of being jealous of your collection .....Wow.........What arrogance ........ Did anything I said hit home with you or are you just to caught up in defence mode that you cant see how bad you are digging your grave ......... Maybe instead of writing novels in your defence you should be taking the time to look at what you have caused with your pride and take a step back .......
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Old 12-27-04, 12:57 PM   #125
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breaking the T.O.S. is reason to ban the man so what the %$@^ is taking so long, quite frankly i'm rather sickened by the insane ramblings. He hasn't even acknowledged the fact that he has broken the rules. Save us all from more idiocy and just get rid of the problem. I really don't think it's going to get any better, in fact each time he posts he seems to be digging a much deeper hole for himself. I don't know you at all Tony, all I'm saying is you are a member that has broken the T.O.S. and there really should be no exceptions. I have nothing to say about the original post except "Nice Very Nice" Sorry to see a regular sink so far so fast. Good luck in the future Tony, but I think you should really just take a break from ssnakess for a while and let the air settle for your own sake.

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Old 12-27-04, 01:08 PM   #126
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OMG, really Tony you must get to the point instead of spewing out all of this written diarrhea

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I like how you reverse what I proved others do but its ok,because I can' t do it right. Yet you did no research it takes up time so why bother right?

Don' t bother replying unless you can prove you did your research and put your friendships aside to be constructive, then maybe but don' t bother get a good night' s rest.

Whenever people post pics for the first time from a new breeder they give props to the breeder, which most people do. You, unlike most post pics whenever your snakes move, eat, crap or has a different light on them. Quite honestly most of us don't care to see a thousand pics of the same damn snake.

Since you mentioned Dan I'll use him as an example; he usually posts ~3 pics of a snake through their stay at his place. Everytime a pic is posted he will mention the original breeder, or breeder of the parents if his pic is of a baby, even if it is to show off the growth of the snake. You on the other hand find it necessary to post a pic of every non significant event. I think it's good practice to ALWAYS give credit where credit is due not only when it is benefiical to you.

BTW, Dan doesn't fear you; you give yourself way too much credit.

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I think and know I explaining the copyright issue. But 1 day maybe someone will sell you animals from your own photos that were doctored up and are still in your collection. Maybe you don' t understand but if you look up all my photos they all carry my name to weed out these scammers, in the end a little photoshop can remove my name ot even better crop a photo and cut the name out, but I can still tell if its my animals some is stealing and ruining my name. In the end I can challenge them and prove myself after but showing the larger image and the one with my name. By doing this I feel I am helping the community single out the con artists in our hobby. Maybe you just don' t understand maybe I did not explain it better but as you see to explain it best I must write out these long replys. Because you do not know me and I do not think you ever met me or chatted with me, judging me is lame. You and others think gossip is the truth and only way to true information. I can ' t change your mind because that would mean I am trying to make you do something you don' t believe in. But if you wish to have an open mind - weed through the gossip and maybe do some reasearch.

In a joking manner (key word - joking) you state you got promission for the avatar your using, great did you get a license release, was the lawyer charging a decent price. If you get my drift I can read more into something that is nothing I only wished you tried that before judging me. hope the smiley faces show its a joke.

Let's look at the facts:

You put YOUR copyright on photos that YOU didn't take.

I don't think this is even allowed if they sign a release as you are claiming you took the photo. They should have their own copyright on the photo.

As I said before when not using a photo for personal gain you only need consent. Like the consent I got from Kara at NERD when I wanted to use one of their pics for my avatar.

I realize there is a definite need to copyright photos so people don't steal them as you did.

BTW, you need to put a date (year is fine) on the copyright to validate it since a copyright is good for 50 years from when the photo was taken.

I didn't need gossip or BS to form my opinion of you, just the fact you steal pics was enough for me. If I wanted BS I would have contacted you directly.

Just to clarify cause you never seem to understand I will summarize the post in one line

YOU CAN'T COPYRIGHT A PHOTO YOU DIDN'T TAKE.

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Old 12-27-04, 01:09 PM   #127
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Actually Dave, in most cases one or even TWO TOS breakings does not result in a ban.

Three is the limit and that has been told to everyone many times.

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Old 12-27-04, 01:50 PM   #128
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Soooooooooo........


When's the NHL season going to begin?????

(tries to change the topic)..... sorry..........heheh
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Old 12-27-04, 01:59 PM   #129
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Soooooooooo........


When's the NHL season going to begin?????

(tries to change the topic)..... sorry..........heheh
LMFAO! Not soon enough!! World Juniors in just over an hour!! Go Canada Go!!!
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Old 12-27-04, 02:13 PM   #130
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nevermind

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Old 12-27-04, 02:16 PM   #131
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Tony,

What are you apologizing for? Can you please be specific?


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Old 12-27-04, 02:23 PM   #132
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yes this can only go on for so long, what are you giuys fighting for...your all not going to get anything in this.
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Old 12-27-04, 02:35 PM   #133
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K everyone, I am overwhelmed with the amount of replies and arguements in this thread.... I haven't read the posts since my last reply, if you had anythig directed at me please PM me from now on.

Happy New Year!

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Old 12-27-04, 02:36 PM   #134
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You can't really read any of the posts now because Tony has decided to delete his parts of this conversation.

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